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Thanks for your support Da Masta, I hope to see some people with some knowledge of dinosaurs, I may be shallow at this dinosaur thing, but I'll keep on trying.

T-Rex is my fave dino, and Utahraptor would be my second, 3rd would have to be triceratops, cuz I'd like to see a car play chicken with it...I dunno, thats just my idea :)
from ***DinoSol***, age 19, Green Bay, WI, USA; December 12, 2001


Kitty I haven't been puting pictures on because the kids computer is basiclly STUFFED. I can't do anything on it.
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


"The bones in the shin are the radius and ulna, by the way."
Just thought I'd point out that the radius and ulna are part of the forearm, and not the shin. The shin bones are the tibia and fibula.

from Jordan M., age 19, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada; December 12, 2001


Miss me?

Spinosaurus beat T-Rex? They never fought so that is a worthless battle
from Diloph, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


Dan W, do you know everything about dinosaurs? Tell me a fact I don't know!!!!!!!!!!
from ????????, age ??, ??????, ???????, ?; December 12, 2001


Why am i so famous?

bECAUSE YOU JUST ARE !!!!!!!!!!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!
from Andrea, age 11, england, germany, london; December 12, 2001


mystery writer please tell me who you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from DanW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


Everyone sorry about all the remarks I said. It,s just that this mystry guy is bothering me. I am especially sorry to gloman. i didn't mean that about your cat. and da masta i am sorry about all the stuff i said about you . please do'nt be mad
from DanW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


jen, i am more of a dino master than you are!!!!!!! I know more than you!!!!!!!!
from DanW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


a stegasaurus has one brain. it even says so on this website!
from DanW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


"So far nobody has anwersed my question corretly. Here it is again:
How many brans does a stegosaurur have?
a) one
b) three
c) five
from Jessica.S, age 8, London, Ontario, ?; December 11, 2001"

Well, Ed Cope (I think,) thought that the space in it's sacral vertebrae was a second brain, but now we know that it was just a nerve organ of some sort. Probably to help with it's tail. It's all spiky, and you have to swing it carefully, etc. Maybe I'm wrong. Hey, Brad, you know. I remember you writing something about it. Help me here, I may be wrong.

Well, it was a nerve signal processing organ, anyway. All chordates have one brain. I think everyone was right.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


"Hey Dan W, I disagree with you!!!! I disagree with you!!! I've seen you've been writing to a mystry writer. I think I am the the dinosaur master. If your smart you'd anwser all the dinosaur questions that people write on the talk and so will I."

Well, answer my trivia then! Even Tim isn't answering it!

1) How many digits did ventastega have on it's manus?

2) forgot. Check this forum december 6 - 9 out for this one.

3) What was eomanis and where have it's best fossils been found?

How come people are spending so little time here? Tim, what did I get wrong on your trivia? Answer me if you want to. I just thought you would want to! But I guess you could be busy. I hardly find the time to spend here, I have such a packed day...
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


"Now leave my name alone and go get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Whoa, no need to be so snappy!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


DinoSol, you are quite amazing.

"So please, I don't want any Spino fans knocking at my door waiting to beat me up or something like that, I just want people to know the real facts, and that if you have the better equipment, and you know what your doing, you'll be the victor, not on how big you are."

If people attack you I'll back you up. Hey, you really know what you're talking about!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 12, 2001


hey tom! how's things? how come i haven't seen any new dinosaur pictures up in a while???
from kitty, age ?, blois, ?, france; December 12, 2001


Hmmm...well, I'm going to try and put out the facts for this Spinosaurus thing...one other thing before I start dishing out my theories, I'm betting that there wouldn't of been so much argument if there hadn't been that annoying fight between T-Rex and Spinosaurus in JP3.
First off, there was a geographical barrier between the two called the "Atlantic Ocean". Even more so, Spinosaurus lived about 97-95million yrs ago, while T-Rex 65 million yrs ago.
These predators, if they where to actually meet in combat, would probably of avoided eachother just for the fact that they do not want to injure themselves, and they also don't want to waste precious calories on fighting. More over, there where plenty of food to go around, so they would of hunted there natural prey, not eachother. Survival is the number one issue when you look at this.
Spinosaurus if you look at him, is very thin, lean, and his long snout, is mostly ideal for fishing, his teeth are just straight and pointy, made to most likely snatch fish. It could also have killed dinosaurs as well, and if you look at the hands of the Spinosaurus, it was massive, and tucked under its body, these hands would of been perfect for snatching, big fish.
Looking at Spinosaurus, it was not really built for massive power, its big sail on its back would of caused major trouble, if it where to get an a serious fight, it could also work to its advantage, making itself look bigger. Spinosaurus also had a humongously huge vertebrae, which is what made this animal so long, it also had a very thin rib cage, like that of Dilophosaurus and Compsognathids.

Tyrannosaurus Rex, was a large heavy bipedal dinosaur, weighing from 6-7 tons, it was heavier than Spinosaurus. Including in the T-Rexes arsenal would be his bone crushing jaws, capable of ripping huge chunks of meat and bone with one bite. T-Rex also had a much more bulkier look and a much larger rib cage, T-Rex was made more truly for hunting dinosaurs, it was also able to hunt fish as well though probably not a sufficient as Spinosaurus would of.
T-Rexes teeth where also very long and curved, this would of made it able to hunt large animals, also, its had many serrations, as to Spinosaurus which have little or no serrations at all.
Now, if we where to forget about the geographical barrier and the times they where actually alive, the only way I could see a T-Rex against a Spinosaurus if there natural prey where very scarce, and the T-Rex and Spinosaurus had to go in competetion against eachother.
If they where to fight, I would have to really go for Tyrannosaurus Rex, not because T-Rex if my favorite dinosaur, but because it was more built for hunting large prey, and also, its bigger and bulkier body, would of insure its success, as well as its jaws.
Spinosaurus does have the arms, but I don't know if they would of been that effective, for as I said earlier before, Spinosaurus's arms where tucked under its body, this would of made it more geared towards fishing not, fighting, although it still would of caused some trouble for T-Rex.
After looking at the facts, I really have to say T-Rex, Spinosaurus would have the length department, but does size really matter, no, it would be like saying A lion vs. a Tiger, just because a tiger is slightly longer, doesn't mean its going to neccesarilly win. Same thing goes with T-Rex, Giganotosaurus, and Spinosaurus, in my very own expressed opinion, I would have to say who is the better fighter will win, which means, who knows how to kill faster, quicker and easier without risking much injury will be the victor, not size.
So this is all I have to say...
:)
So please, I don't want any Spino fans knocking at my door waiting to beat me up or something like that, I just want people to know the real facts, and that if you have the better equipment, and you know what your doing, you'll be the victor, not on how big you are.

from ***DinoSol***, age 19, Green Bay, WI, USA; December 11, 2001


NEEDING BIGGER DINOSAURS ' EYEBALLS .
from TRUNG T ., age 32, SAN JOSE ,, CALIFORNIA ,, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA; December 11, 2001


I told you Gianna and Aaron the thing about T-rex being stupid and all was a froud. Somebody used my name to protect them from getting all the anoying calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now leave my name alone and go get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from Jennifer, age 10, London, Ontario, ?; December 11, 2001


Hey Dan W, I disagree with you!!!! I disagree with you!!! I've seen you've been writing to a mystry writer. I think I am the the dinosaur master. If your smart you'd anwser all the dinosaur questions that people write on the talk and so will I.
from Jen, age 10, London, Ontario, ?; December 11, 2001


So far nobody has anwersed my question corretly. Here it is again:
How many brans does a stegosaurur have?
a) one
b) three
c) five

from Jessica.S, age 8, London, Ontario, ?; December 11, 2001


Sorry Dan W I'm not da master. I told you I was somebody who wouldn't suspect.
from ????????, age ??, ??????, ???????, ?; December 11, 2001


"spinosaurus can not beat a t-rex. it,s neck is too thin and the sail on it's back is too stiff and brittle.YES, BUT NOT THE ONLY REASONS! and by the way, i am a dino genius MANY PEOPLE HERE ARE. HEY, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE AGRESSIVE. I'M NICE! BUT I THOUGHT I'D POINT THAT OUT."

AND I THOUGHT TIM AND BRAD AND T - MASTER WOULD JUMP AT MY TRIVIA. THIS SITE IS ABOUT OTHER PREHISTORIC CREATURES TOO! C'MON! IT'S NOT THAT HARD!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


Hey, DinoSol; (quick if you leave the stars out!) I normally know what I'm talking about, although I'm sometimes wrong, of course!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


Hey, not much happened in my abcence!

And ***DinoSol***, welcome in! You appear knowledgeable to me. I agree with you a lot about T - Rex. The bones in the shin are the radius and ulna, by the way.

And Dan, I when I write I always put my name. ALWAYS. I always own up to what I put up on the board, if it doesn't say "da masta," It's not me. If it says "da masta," by the way, it could be a gremlin, but I would tell you.

And ***DinoSol***, (long name to type,) all animals and plants are made by mother nature, adapted to what they do and improving or being replaced!

And I want more CNN! It rules!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


"Hey Dan W, you know Spinosaurus could fight and win against mostly everything or anybody in the way. If you are a dinosaur geneous you would know that. I'm going tokeep writing till you figure out who I am. Bye!!!"

I can't say I agree I'm afraid.

And someone new? Cool. Welcome in Kitty.

~~WELCOME TO ZOOMDINOSAURS.COM~~
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


"How many brains does a Stegasaurus have?
a) one
b) three
c) ten
Please write back soon if you know the anwser."

One. Did you know that octopii have three hearts?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


"Sorry about what I said da masta. Do you really think a spinosaurus
could beat a t-rex? T- rex did have the most powerful bite of all time
you know. it could bite 20,000lbs per square inch."
WHEN DID I SAY SPINO CAN BEAT T-REX? ESPECIALLY NOT WITH THAT SAIL. IT HAD LOTS OF BLOOD VESSELS THERE, ONE TEAR AND IT COULD BLEED TO DEATH. AND GIANNA, THEY DIDN'T LIVE TOGETHER, I AGREE TOTALY, BUT I MEAN HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THEY WHERE TO FIGHT.
who cares about Glomans cat!!!!!!!!!!
THAT IS REALLY CRUEL AND NASTY.
hey da masta, do not disagree with me about me being the dino master
WE TREAT EACH OTHER EQUALLY.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


"I have waited for the walking with prehistoric beasts to come,so far,I only have the books.I do have cable and the magazine to see what show is coming,but none had written "Walking with prehistoric beasts"But,I can wait for the series,it can't remain in North America forever,sooner or later,it has to come.....
from Donovan c., age 12, ?, singapore, ?; December 9, 2001
BOOKS? I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY ONE BOOK? UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH WWD AND WWB, AND I HAVE BOTH. THEY'RE GOOD.
I don't think that it would be doomsday if two rexes arrived around anklasaurus. They would most likely just trott away.
YES, I AGREE. OR THE REXES WOULD FIGHT OVER TERRITORY. OR JUST INTIMIDATE EACH OTHER UNTIL ONE RUNS AWAY.
I'm watching walking with prehistoric beasts right now, I finished watching super croc, they are both cool."
YES!

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


I was away for so long! Whew!

"Scienctists believe Therizinosaurus ate plants, but with it's "sythe" like claws, and beaked mouth, it's really hard to tell...
ACTUALLY, THERIZINOSAURUS HAD QUITE STRAIGHT CLAWS, VERY INEFFICIENT FOR TEARING FLESH. MORE OF A DEFENSIVE WEAPON. AND A BEAKED MOUTH IS AN ADAPTION FOR SLICING LEAVES.
p.S. Someone here has to chill out with the boy and girl thing =\ it doesn't even relate to dinosaurs
from Neko"
I GUESS YOUR RIGHT.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


i know more about dinosaurs than da masta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


Spinosaurus is weak!!!!!!!!it,s neck is to thin a t-rex could snap it's neck in one bite!also it's sail is too stiff for it to move fast enough to hunt. it was probably a scavenger
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 11, 2001


Hey mystery writer, let me take a guess. you are da masta. and a spinosaurus can not beat a t-rex. it,s neck is too thin and the sail on it's back is too stiff and brittle. and by the way, i am a dino genius
from DanW, age ?, ?, PA, USA; December 11, 2001


Hahahahaha, now I laugh and diss myself,it seems I have made an inaccurate decision about the legs of T-Rex, the longer femur which has also resulted in humans, have made them slower, much like in other animals, a cheetah for example has very long lower leg bones, enabling it to run faster...but this still doesn't stop from me saying that T-Rex was a fast superpredator.
from ***DinoSol***, age 19, Green Bay, WI, USA; December 11, 2001


When I read this forum about dinosaurs, I either laugh really hard, think that some people dun know what there talking about, or else I'm very shocked at just how much some people do know about dinosaurs, especially the ones who are younger than me. I for one, am sick and I tired of T-Rex vs. T-Rex vs. T-Rex vs. This drags on, first he fought Giga than he fought Spino, then it was the infamous Triple H (this was the most pointless and stupid remark of all), now it seems to be ankylo. I won't be surprised if pretty soon he fights Ryu from Street Fighter.
Tyrannosaurus Rex was no fighter, and he was not the ultimate machine that could not fall. T-Rex was very much fragile as he was powerful, able to break bones and get hurt. Heck an ankle injury could result in this big carnivores death.
Tyrannosaurus Rex living at his time, would of been a survivor, it did not go around looking for fights. During hunting, Tyrannosaurus Rex would not of hunted healthy young dinosaurs that could of caused him injury, it would of selected the old and weak and kill them instead. It is natures way of eliminating the weak and old, to let the strong live and survive, this may sound inhumane but it is the darn truth.
T-Rex also, most likely would of avoided a fight, especially up against and Akylosaurus, no smart predator would fight another dinosaur just to fight, predators most likely avoid eachother and other herbivores if it was not needed to insure their survival. The only times I would see a T-Rex trying to fight is when it was protecting its territory,offspring, a kill, and during mating.
T-Rex with its spectacular powerful jaws is really a evolution in mother nature, I mean, just when you look at the teeth and the mouth, its nothing but jaw dropping and shock.
This dinosaur was a very dangerous dinosaur, and it was very capable of hunting, or scavenging. Not only where these teeth leathal, they where very strong, bone crushing powerful. Might I add the reason why they where powerful enough enough to crush, was T-Rex flexibility in the skull, it has poweful joints, and its whole skull would flex fully for the bite.
Also if you would look at the tooth, you would need a microscope to do this, I don't know if you can see it with the naked eye. On the T-Rex's teeth, there are serrations, but on the serrations, where it goes into the teeth, the serratoin end with a circular opening. Now, the reason for this circular opening at the end of each serration is so that that whole could absorb the shock and impact, so that T-Rex's teeth didn't break each time he would hunt.
This would insure that when biting and holdig down prey, and biting for the kill, T-Rex could use the maximum power of his teeth knowing that it wouldn't break. These phenomenal teeth, and the whole jaws and skull, would of made T-Rex very dangerous, also the fact that that his neck muscles if you look at it, where unbelievably large, this would of also helped out in the jaws department, for a weak neck would of really crippled T-Rex, because the jaws without the neck, would of gimped T-Rex.
This is also the reason, that I believe the T-Rex had short arms, small, tucked away, so the jaws are more massive, and balance is the key for this big predator, as well, Large forearms would of limbered him too heavy on the front.
Now, I don't really know so much about the legs of Tyrannsaurus Rex, but in my estimation, this dinosaur was a very fast dinosaur, for its size, for many reasons, it had the legs of an ostrich, also, if you look at it, its femur is longer than the other leg bone ( forgot what the name for that bone is :( ) if you where to look at Giganotosaurus's femur its shorter than the other leg bone. What I believe is that a long femur would of made T-Rex be able to run fast, I am willing to believe that T-Rex would of been able to run at least 30 mph, for the long femur gives the legs the most strength in running, look at horses, there long femurs allow them to run very fast. T-Rex had very powerful legs, and I would not be surprised if he could sprint to attack its victims.
So there you have it, T-Rex in my theory, was not a dinosaur that was a fighter or murderous killer, it is an animal trying to survive as best it can in its habitat, anything could of brought this superpredator to its death, a bad ankle, if not healed could result in its death.
Nothing is impossible to beat, yes, T-Rex is my favorite, and even if other superpredators are bigger than him, as far as evolution is, T-Rex is the supreme predator, built by mother nature.

from ***DinoSol***, age 19, Green Bay, WI, USA; December 10, 2001


Even two T-Rex wouldn't try to kill an Ankylosaurus unless they had to.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 10, 2001


As far as I know Stegasaurus had 1 brain.
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 10, 2001


Hi Kitty!!!!
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 10, 2001


Hey Dan W, you know Spinosaurus could fight and win against mostly everything or anybody in the way. If you are a dinosaur geneous you would know that. I'm going tokeep writing till you figure out who I am. Bye!!!
from ????????, age ??, ??????, ???????, ?; December 10, 2001


How many brains does a Stegasaurus have?
a) one
b) three
c) ten
Please write back soon if you know the anwser.

from Jessica.S, age 8, London, Ontario, ?; December 10, 2001


Sorry about what I said da masta. Do you really think a spinosaurus
could beat a t-rex? T- rex did have the most powerful bite of all time
you know. it could bite 20,000lbs per square inch.

from DanW, age ?, ?, PA, USA; December 10, 2001


who cares about Glomans cat!!!!!!!!!!
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; December 10, 2001


hey da masta, do not disagree with me about me being the dino master
from danW, age ?, ?, PA, USA; December 10, 2001


tom g - i just read the latest chapter of your occultosaurus story, and i think it's great :)
from kitty, age ?, blois, ?, france; December 10, 2001


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