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Dino Talk Nov. 11-15, 2001: A Dinosaur Forum

"T.Rex could whip Deinonychus' arse before you could say 'Now wasn't that slick?'"

There's some preverse truth in this statement, you know. Assuming we are talking at normal speed, Saying "Now wasn't that slick" would take us about 3 seconds. I'm pretty sure Tyrannosaurus could kill Deinonychus within 3 seconds in his jaws.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Oh my goodness, please take your personal life to some other place, we really don't want to know all the juicy details, why don't you try CNN.com? Seesh...

Speaking about EQ, it has indeed led to a great deal of misconceptions in the way we precieve dinosaurs. People tend percieve larger dinosaurs as "dumb" and anything smaller as "smart", which is extremely open to contention. Isn't it fair to say that dinosaur A, who has 0.05 kilo of brains but 50 kilos of body would still be "smarter" then dinosaur B, who had 0.04 kilo of brains, but 40 kilos of body? On the flipside, EQ is useful for determining how nimble an animal actually was, for a high neuron to body ratio gives it better control over itself, but I fail to see how it could go into measuring intelligence. What exactly, was Edison's or Nicole Tesla's EQ? Do we expect them to be significantly higher then us normal humans? Intelligence is extremely hard to determine without observing an animal in the flesh, and even that can be hard to do. But I suppose it would be safe to say that an animal, despite it's body mass, having a larger brain by sheer size over another animal wou! ld give it some kind of advantage in computing power.

That actually brings me to Tyrannosaurus. Tyrannosaurus had a very large (actually the largest in all of dinosauria, I believe) and complex brain, and beat the other large "carnosaurs" (I'm using a very loose term to describe most other large non-coelurosaurian predatory dinosaurs) by a ratio of 2:1, not counting the smell lobes in Tyrannosaurus, which would have pushed the ratio up to 3:1. Given the fact it itself was decended from big-brained, "intelligent" ancestors, I don't see any reason as viewing it as of any sort of "dumber", as people like to precieve Tyrannosaurus when put beside other smaller coelurosaurs. There's actually very good reason to believe why Tyrannosaurus would have been every bit as intelligent, or even more so, when put beside other animals like the "raptors".

Intelligence is extremely subjective indeed.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Vivien K., you wanted some info. on Mussaurus. Here you go:
The Species is "patagonicus"
So you come up with Mussaurus patagonicus. The length is 20cm, but it was a juvenile,and they estimate that the adult length would be 3 m or so. It lived during the Norian age (one of the ages of the late Triassic) and it lived in Argentina. It's name means "Patagonian Mouse lizard" Several eggs have been found, and four skulls. Coloradisaurus may be the adult version.
Hope that helped!

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Hi Gary! Nice to have you on this site. My favorite dinosaur is T-Rex.

By the way, earlier this evening, I did some calculations regarding "T-Imperator" and "C-Rex"
It's widly said that T-Imperator is 15% larger than Giganotosaurus, and that C-rex is 10% larger than Sue. Of course, I'll believe this. Here's what I cmae up with:

T-Imperator= aprroximatly 48.ft long and would weigh about 9.3 tons (But I based this on a 8.0 ton estimate for G.Carollinni)

C-Rex= Approximatly 45 ft. long and would weigh about 7.15 tons (based on a 6.5 estimate for Sue but really, I'm not actually sure of Sue's real estimated weight.)

If you have any comments just tell me!
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Yes, you're pretty accurate Gianna. But "Sauropodmorpha" is the term given to both Sauropods and Prosauropods in general, or at least that's what I've read. Also, instead of saying "Hadrosaurs",say Ornithopods, because you are leaving out Hypsilophodontids and Iguanodontids, etc.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


I seriously doubt the accuracy of any dinosaur intelligence survey. We know very little about the behaviour of these animals, and I don't think that dinosaurs would have any behaviors that could be measured and compared to what humans call "intelligence".
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 15, 2001
Note: I agree. Related to your post, the scientist who invented the EQ scale, Harry Jerison, recently wrote me a few long, wonderful notes concerning EQ (he also referred to EQ as the "miserable measure that it is," perhaps because of the many misinterpretations and oversimplifications it has gone through over the years). He disagrees strongly with most of the EQ estimates made concerning dinosaurs; the EQ figures generally quoted (including on my pages) are from J.A. Hobson, who adapted the concept of EQ for dinosaurs. When I have some free time, I will have to do a remajor revision on my EQ page, using Jerison's suggestions and recalculating EQ's (e.g., says Jerison, "For Troodon, taking 41 grams for its brain and 45,000 grams (45 kg) for its body, you get a denominator of 21. Dividing that into 41 you get an EQ relative to reptiles of 1.9."). JC


Buffy C and I have been friends since year 8. Our friend ship broke up when she stole my mobile phone and lied to me about it she said it was a practical joke but if you think thats funny you are pretty depribed she is a liar and can not be trusted and say that she dosn't know me is pretty rude since we have been going to school together for 4 years. she is just pissed with me because i reveled her other identy what ever you do don't trust buffy C or natasha C
from Ben, age ?, ?, ?, australia; November 15, 2001


I was Buffy C boyfriend and Buffy C is Natasha C she lives in Manjimup Western Australia and she thinks she is smarter than all of the other people on this site and she tells her friends that you are all dumb and know nothing about dinosaus. Do not trust Buffy C
from BEN, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Hey Tim I noticed you weren't around for a while until you said Stegosaurus wasn't the smartest, hehehehe. Well, I certainly don't think so either. They were at the middle. This is my chart of the smartest dinos...

Dumb: Sauropods, Prosauropods, Sauropodomorphas
Middle: Stegosaurs, Ankylosaurs, Hadrosaurs
Smart: Theropods, Carnosaurs, Dromaeosaurs, Troodontids

So, is this pretty accurate??
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Yes da masta if you are a Deinonychus fan then check Early May 2001.
And this is one of their messages, from Insaniac. Ib yotally disagree with this one.

"T.Rex could whip Deinonychus' arse before you could say 'Now wasn't that slick?'"

Hmmmm.......
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


ok can some one answer this question

What was the fist dinosaurs bone founded by Dr Robert Piolt
from Gary, age 17, ?, ?, australia; November 15, 2001


Maybe there were dwarf Allosaurs found in Australia, but I don't completely believe WWD about what they say.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


I have been gone for one day and i come back and everyone has made up all these lies aboput me.
I AM NOT 'BEN', 'DA REAL MASTA', OR NATASHA. I AM NOT FROM AUSTRALIA AND I AM NOT BEN'S GIRLFRIEND.
I AM BUFFY.
WHO EVER IS DOING IT STOP MAKING UP LIES ABOUT ME, ALL I WANT TO DO IS TALK ABOUT DINOSAURS!!!

from Buffy, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


(JC, I might have acidently sent un-finished posts, so if you find one, could you erase it? Thanks.)

I like your sense of humor, Honkie!
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"You know more, Tim."
Yeah, but the guy just wanted to know what it was, so I felt I didn't need to get into a detailed description

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


god there has been some real heavy stuff going on it this site man
from Gary, age 17, ?, ?, australia; November 15, 2001


"What is the largest prehistoric crocodile?"
I think its Sarcosuchus Imperator.
"What is the only museum in the world that has the skeleton of gargoyleosaurus?"
I think It's some Natural History museum in New Mexico.
"Jobaria was found in..."
Niger.
Good Trivia !

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


HELLO
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON THIS SITE SO WHAT EVERY ONES FAVORITE DINO
MINE IT PROTOSERATOPES AND ULTRASAURAS

from Gary, age 17, ?, ?, australia; November 15, 2001


Can we just all be civil to each other and put as side our differences
and talk about dinosaurs

from MM, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Dear every one
please don't be mean to BUFFY C
Thank You

from ben, age 16, manjimup, wa, australia; November 15, 2001


Thank u Will I'm glad to hear that u love australia
from Mel, age ?, ?, ?, Australia; November 15, 2001


"Hasn't there been Allosaurs found in Australia?"
I don't know of any allosaurs found in Australia, but you can check if you like. Refer to the URL I gave during my last post about Australain dinosaurs

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


I would just like to say that 'Gloman' is totally wrong about me being either Ben or Da'real'Master. And what the h(*& is with Ben saying that i am his girlfriend, i dont even know him.
PLEASE if you are not going to go an this site to talk about dinosaurs then just get the hell off.
And who ever is doing it stop making up lies about me and everyone else!!!

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"arctometatarsalian pes in the late Cretaceous Theropod? And what effect does it really have on the more gracile digitigrade theropods?"

I have a serious suspision that Buffy didn't answer this question because she entirely clueless about it.

Prehaps her resume isn't anywhere as vaunted as she claims it to be...
from Jackiene, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


I might have written this twice, because when I was typing it something happened and it knocked me off the website. So I don't know

I'm not Australian, but that was a very mean thing to say, This is a dinosaur site not an insult country site, lately there has been to much of insulting countries. why can't someone start a new think about it disscusion, I'm trying to think of a topic right now.

Well heres some trivia

1. What is th largest prehistoric crocodile?

2. What is the only museum in the world that has the skelaton of gargoyleosaurus?

3. Jobaria was found in Morroco, Egypt, Niger, Nigeria, Chad, or Madagascar?
from T-master, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Hey...are we getting political here? Ah right! Singapore is the best! We spank vandals here! So don't come down here and start spraying cars and think you'll get away with a stern repimand...somebody obviously didn't tell Michael Fay that :) Odd though, how Australia has made strange remarks about us conducting spy plane flights over them and suggesting we might want to have military intentions on them...very strange indeed...at least that's what one really strange politican said.

Ok, back to pseudo-dinosaurs:

"Honkie Tong that is exactly how black dragonfish and I think Viperfish use Bioluminecence."

Uh huh, Necoraptor is a hybrid of them.

"Albertosaurus' legs where just just as strong as a tyrannosaurs', and alberto was lighter, so it may well have done 60mp/h in my opinion. For long distances."

Harh...your estimates do seem pretty extreme. Speed is also extremely dependent on stride length. Albertosaurus limbs certainly weren't as powerful as Tyrannosaurus, going by proportion, and Albertosaurus was rather close to T.rex size anyway, at 10 meters. All in all I'd expect Albertosaurus to run like a 10-meter T.rex.

"Dromaesaurids where great predators. Actually, I saw (another) Africa Documentary and I saw that the buffalo, despite their robust limbs, could run quite fast over short periods of time. They have very strong limbs. Same goes for dromaesaurids, of course, they where (very) different, but, I think raptors could run fast. "

I do think raptors are capable of speed, but certainly not as fast as other runners around. One thing that people like to note raptors for is their "speed", which isn't true as raptor speed was pretty adverage for an animal its size, if not a little slower. Utahraptor was extremely not built for speed, surprising paleontologists with it's extremely ungracile limb proportions (even for a raptor). The robust limbs of the raptor seem to be more of an adaptation for kicking, not running. It was the coelurosaurian families Ornithomimosauria and Tyrannosauroidea that were highly adapted for speed.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Da Masta-I think Buffy C. is just a snob and that Da'real'Masta jerk is either her or Ben.
from Gloman, age 13, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Does anyone here have a pet lizard???
P.S.JC,I like the zoomstore stuff and I think it's interesting.The only thing is that it's a little too pricey.

from Gloman, age 13, ?, New York, USA; November 15, 2001
Thanks. We actually charge a little less than most retailers (and our margins are very low). JC


What are the different periods of the dinosaurs in order starting from the oldest?

Triassic
Jurassic
Cretacious

D'you want epochs or stages too? I feel like Buffy. I wanna show off. Sorry, even though it is not good you often want to. Hard to supress. Anyone else feel that?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"it would mean saying
goodbye to THe Complete Dinosaur"

I want it Brad! Is it good? Can you get it in England d'you think?
God, It's facsinating reading earlier posts. Like, years ago, before Tim or Honkie or T master! Brad was a Rex basher! WOW! (whoops, sorry Brad) but I never found the Deinonychus insults. Maybe that's good. Actually, I think it is. Yeah.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"ONE WARNING:
Whoever likes Deinonychus here(I really do) better not READ Late May 2000
favorite dinosaurs, they were insulting Deinonychus so much that my Dad told me
to chill.
GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
from A very ANGRY Gianna"

Oh dear...
I like deinonychus, but I think I'd better check it out...

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Hello again God of Gamblers. If you did as I asked you came back. And you are not 18 by the way. (Should I have revealed that?)
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Hey I was gone for a couple of days, I read a couple of the new posts, and man
there is some people who are really insulting. First of all, who cares if da masta is
on all the time, it's a website, it's not illegal, and second of all, buffy you can't
insult someone for their name they put on a website, thats just stupid. Also Buffy
you don't like Tim because you think he's showing off. But when you say I can
answer a question better than anyone on this website, that seems like your showing
off.
from T-master"

Yes. I would be ready to roll out the welcome mat for you earlier but you are being cocky. So was I when I came here but not for so long.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Albertosaurus' legs where just just as strong as a tyrannosaurs', and alberto was lighter, so it may well have done 60mp/h in my opinion. For long distances.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Honkie Tong & Billy MacDraw you don't mind if I have rexez with names like "stephen" and "sue" and variations of the word "sue" in D WCW like in your dino warz because these are REAL rexes actually dug up in real life so it makes sense to use them?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Hey Owain! Please don't say that about Australian people! I think Australia is a great country.
from Will, age 13, ?, ?, United kingdom; November 15, 2001


Ha ha, hey very original idea for Necoraptor!
from Leonard, age 14, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


". Don't be insulted, I'm just in a REALLY bad mood..."

Do I blame you?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Sarcosaurus imperator was a very large prehistoric Crocodile."

You know more Tim!
I'll help if I find the time to do so...

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"What the h*#^; is with everyone out there thinking the TIM is sooooo smart *COS HE IS*. I mean thinking that a raptor could be 6m tall when its like 1m tall at the hips is just plain stupidity *EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND TIM M TOO OF COURSE*.
One hint Tim if your going to try and act like you know heaps about dinosaurs, DON'T, cause its not convincing!!!
Cheers."

Here's a list of people who like Tim & dislike what you said. I think.
1 Gianna
2 Da masta
3 Brad
4 T - master (Where are you!?!)
5 Honkie Tong?
6 Tom G
7 Others of course

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Dear evryone
my name is Ben and Im ashamed to amit that buffy C is my girlfriend
I sorry for all the trouble she has caused you all.
BEN"
Whoa there Ben! You'll get split up like that! She does seem to know a reasonable ammount! She can stay if she wants of course.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Buffy C
I think that Da Masta was only tryingto help you by answering that question for u maybe you should try and give him some respect and say thanx instead of being such a snob!
from I'mQT, age "

Again, cruel but accurate. Thank you I'mQT anyway.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"arctometatarsalian pes in the late Cretaceous Theropod? And what effect does it really have on the more gracile digitigrade theropods?"

I'd try to answer that if Buffy let me. I want to. And I don't think Buffy can answer that. Of course I think I'll need to consult a textbook. But I think Buffy here will not be very happy if I do that.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Who out there believes that stegosaurus was the smartest of all dinosaurs"

I think if you want a new debate topic you'll have to find something where people disagree Missy.

Stego was not the cleverest you don't need much of a brain (I'm not talking about you) to know that.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"totally wrong" ???????
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Da Masta I don't think velociraptors were anti social *FAIR ENOUGH* I think they would have used different ways of hunting in different situations like they would've hunted alone when hunting small dinosaurs *WHICH I SAY THEY ALWAYS DID* like Protoceratops and hunted in packs when hunting larger or more dangerous prey *THEY CAN'T HUNT DANGEROUS PREY THEY ARE VERY FRAGILE AND CANNOT TAKE MUCH DAMAGE THEIR BONES ARE EASILY BROKEN*. Or they could've been in packs but they would attack seprate dinos because it might make it easier for all of the velociraptors *STILL LOTS OF CASUALTIES NOT WORTH IT*. Tim M hasn't there been Allosaurs discovered in Australia *TIM M SAYS YES OF COURSE BECAUSE SOME SMALL DWARF ALLOSAURIDS WHERE FOUND THERE (SORRY FOR ANSWERING TIM'S QUESTION BUT I THOUGHT I MIGHT AS WELL*?
And Buffy you should stop being such a show off *SORRY BUFFY BUT YES*!!

By the way I was only typing in caps so that it would be easier to distinguish my writing from yours.
Still I respect your opion.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"HI I'm only new to this sight "

Welcome. But I must say that
1) Sticking up for people
&
2) Saying controversial things or saying a certain dinosaur is... "not very good" lets just say, is dangerous here. I thought Buffy C was safe when she first came here...

GLOMAN is SAFE!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Honkie, I do not "spam" this forum. You only ever send 1 or 2 sceintific posts, but that doesn't mean that I "spam" this forum even if I do send a lot of messages. I insist on answering everything. Also, I think my clarity is good. If something is not clear then just tell me. OK?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"HI I'm only new to this sight but after reading some of the comments i'd just like to say that Buffy C must have such low self esteem that she just has to make up for it by taking it out on all of us!"

Cruel but... accurate. She appears to know at least as much as me though... I dunno.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"TO Da Masta
How long have u been studying dinosaurs?"

Liked 'em since I was three, more hardcore from about, well, thirteen.
You can say I'm somewhere in the middle here when it comes to knowledge.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Buffy C, say that the longest name is Micropachycephalosaurus with 23 letters and the shortest is I think Minmi."
"Da Masta- all i would like to say is thankyou but no thank you.
i believe that this particular question was directed at me! i do not appriciate you being a total show off and answering it before i even got a chance.
Although you were absolutley correct, id appreciate it if you stopped taking away my lime light."

Ah - ha.

1) I don't know exactly how much you know.

2) That is a very easy question. You get NO glory for it. Not here.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Dromaesaurids where great predators. Actually, I saw (another) Africa Documentary and I saw that the buffalo, despite their robust limbs, could run quite fast over short periods of time. They have very strong limbs. Same goes for dromaesaurids, of course, they where (very) different, but, I think raptors could run fast. But putting them against T - rex is like saying "would the jackals beat the lion if there where 20 of them?" Also, come back skeptic.
Join in.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


If you think that u r so smart Buffy C then Name all of the dinosaurs
>From the jurassic peroid in alphabeltical order!!

Thats asking a lot even from Tim or Brad or Honkie Tong. Not even all paleontologists could get that right!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


"Da'real'Masta-U really need to ... and get a life! If Da Masta wants to spend a large amount of time on here that's fine.It's none of your bussinuss!I like to do the same,so why don't u be brave and attack me!C'mon!!!"

Well, thanks Gloman.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


That thing about "bloody Aussies" was a bit racist.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


Honkie Tong that is exactly how black dragonfish and I think Viperfish use Bioluminecence.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2001


No offense, but everybody know Aussies are the craziest ... people in the entire world - a race that has produced wackos like Crocodile Dundee, Pauline Hanson (to be that lousy of a politican take guts), half the cast of Sci-Fi Channel hit Farscape and the utterly insane Steve Irwin AKA The Crocodile Hunter. Yes, Australia produced a man who wrestles gators with his bare hands and plays with the tails of deadly snakes and would take dare to take on T.Rex, though he would not be living for long. Makes us Americans look unremarkable, if not annoying.
from Paul, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


I think other countries *&^( except for America, Australia is the very best. Do you know?
from Marshell M, age 6, Toowoomba, Queenland, Australia; November 14, 2001


"Who out there believes Stegosaurus is the smartest Dinosaur?"
Not me, hehehehe.
Well, I don't think it's the least intelligent. Prosauropods occupy that spot. On the intelligence chart Stegosaurus would be towards the middle.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Oro?

GGGrrrr I believe in fighting for a worthwhile cause. In that case, to maximise and propagate up-to-date information about dinosaurs here. Something which the latest squabbled seem to be lacking.

"OK, i know the femour of giganotosaur was longer than the t.rex's, but was it actually more robust or thicker? which one has the stronger leg?"

I'm not really sure what you mean by "stronger" leg. Both legs seem extremely capable of supporting the animals' weight, if that's what is concerned, but I wonder what's up with the femur measurements? I remember at first, ridiculus size estimates of Giganotosaurus came up simply becuase some joker decided to extrapolate the dinosaur size up from the amount Giganotosaurus' femur was longer then Tyrannosaurus, which is immediately bad science, given the fact that Tyrannosaurus had very gracile limbs and would be bound to have shorter femurs in proportion to Giganotosaurus (That's was probably how the first estimates of 55 feet came about, when the real figure was about 10 feet off!). All in all, as a matter of fact, Tyrannosaurus actually had longer legs then Giganotosaurus, due to it's longer lower limbs. What really matters however, is that Tyrannosaurus had a clear advantage of gracility and the biomechnic aid of the arctometatarsalian condition. In the Reader's Digest version, Tyrannosaurus had much more efficent and advanced limbs, and would be much faster then Giganotosaurus. (For those of you who haven't caught up with recent Tyrannosaurid limb studies going around, the Tyrannosaurids were the fastest big animal designs ever derived in the whole of dinosauria, directly contradicting Horner's suggestion Tyrannosauria as a whole were slow.)
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Media Leak!

Ok, there's supposed to be a media blackout on DinoWarz 3, but that's being easied as more and more of the project is being planned and completed. One new man-made dinosaur that's going to be in the series will be described in this leak, a dinosaur with bioluminescence (note includes some background info on the DinoWarz storyline as well)!

Genus: Necoraptor
Species: Noctis
Length: 15 feet
Weight: 0.6-0.8 tons
Family Dromaeosauridae

Comments: Sappy name, but what do you expect from a man-made species? Increasing understanding of genetics have allowed scientists to cobble together entirely unrelated animals into a single product. While most man made species are simply stock species modified an already-present feature to a physical extreme (ie: Size, as in the Ultraraptor), Necoraptor repesents the first dedicated attempt into making an animal with abilities entirely outside its family. Necoraptor is unremarkably similar to a natural Utahraptor, which is to be expected, as most of its stock raptor genetic meterial is taken from there, save for its darker coloration. However, Necoraptor is also a hybrid with Malacosteidae, a family of deep sea Black Dragonfish with bioluminescence.

Necoraptor borrows the red-light producing bioluminescence organs from Malacosteidae. Positioned under the eyes of the animal, the light produced by Necoraptor has such long wavelengths that it is almost infrared and is barely visible to a human eye.

The main design specification of Necoraptor was the ability to use the dark to it's advantage, hence the darkened skin and more importantly, the bioluminescence organs. Almost all bioluminescence is blue in color, for blue-green light (wavelength around 470 nm) transmits furthest. While accepting the tradeoff in range, Necoraptor's red lights have such low wavelenghts that potential targets are virtually incapable of observing it, effectively giving Necoraptor its very own brand of active night vision for seeing its prey in the dark. To produce red light, Necoraptor uses a combination of filters and fluorescent material. Light in the photophore (a light-producing organ) doesn't start out deep red. Initially the light has a short wavelength (red is long-wavelength light). This light is absorbed by a fluorescent pigment inside the photophore, which takes the energy and re-emits it as red light (wavelength = 626 nm). Before it shines out into the sea, the light is also filtered until it has a wavelength of around 715 nm.

However, certain engineering problems had to be overcome. The red light produced by Necoraptor could not be effectively detected by the raptor itself, as the stock raptor eyes could not observe such low wavelengths effectively. Attempts to give the raptor low-red light vision by equipping them with an additional set of photoreceptive pigments capable of observing the light were overly complex and proved to be impossible. The engineers then borrowed their solution from Malacosteidae again.

The engineers solved the problem by converting the red light back into visible light by a sort of "reverse fluorescence", a method used and hybridized for use from Malacosteidae. First, the red light emitted by the fish is absorbed by a special molecule in the eye which acts like an antenna. By capturing the energy in this way, this sensitizing pigment can transfer the energy to the visual pigments, which are only sensitive to visible light. Not only does the antenna pigment function like a plant's chlorophyll, harvesting energy from photons, but it actually is a derivative of chlorophyll.

In total darkness, Necoraptor is able to turn on it's red searchlights and use them to search for prey in the gloom, while the prey remains obvious, giving this animal a tremedous advantage in night operations.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


and if any one else has got a problem with austrailans email me at ... and I will talk to you about it because you need some counselling.
from ben, age 16, manjimup, 6258, australia; November 14, 2001
We cannot post e-mail addresses. JC


Hey Owain, there is nothing wrong with australians and if you have got a problem with that, thats your problem and no ones else so keep your opion to your self and get over it.
from ben, age 16, manjimup, wa, australia; November 14, 2001


WELL I LIKE DINOSAURS JUST AS MUCH AS BUFFY C DOSE MY FAVORITE DINO IS PROTOSEROTOPS THEY ARE SO COOL
from BEN, age 16, MANJIMUP, 6258, AUSTRALIA; November 14, 2001


Honkie you should do more pictures. Your pictures are good.
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


So that means Buffy is an Austrailian. That would explain alot (Bloody Aussies)
from Owain, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Da Masta I don't think velociraptors were anti social I think they would have used different ways of hunting in different situations like they would've hunted alone when hunting small dinosaurs like Protoceratops and hunted in packs when hunting larger or more dangerous prey. Or they could've been in packs but they would attack seprate dinos because it might make it easier for all of the velociraptors. Tim M hasn't there been Allosaurs discovered in Australia?
And Buffy you should stop being such a show off!!

from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Vivian:does anyone have any important information on Mussaurus?

(_(_)::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
from Vivian K., age 9, Houston, Texas, United States; November 14, 2001


What are the different periods of the dinosaurs in order starting from the oldest?
from CJ, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


If you think that u r so smart Buffy C then Name all of the dinosaurs
>From the jurassic peroid in alphabeltical order!!

from M, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


buffy C and Natsha C are the same person
from ben, age 16, manjimup, wa, Australia; November 14, 2001


"Whoever likes Deinonychus here(I really do) better not READ Late May 2000 favorite dinosaurs, they were insulting Deinonychus so much that my Dad told me to chill."

I just looked back in the May 2000 archive, and found nothing on the subject you describe. I think you mean Late May 2001. I don't think they were insulting Deinonychus, they were just pointing out that it would be difficult for a pack of Deinonychus to take down T.rex.
from Ten-Shun, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


"Honkie's looking like a hippocrate to me...... he talks about not fighting and all but he seems pretty into them just as much as the next guy."

I don't think Honkie is a hypocrite, though I think he gets annoyed with people (often rightfully so).
from Ten-Shun, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


OK, i know the femour of giganotosaur was longer than the t.rex's, but was it actually more robust or thicker? which one has the stronger leg?
from danny, age ?, MELBOURNE, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Dear evryone

my name is Ben and Im ashamed to amit that buffy C is my girlfriend
I sorry for all the trouble she has caused you all.

BEN
from ben, age 16, manjimup, wa, Australia; November 14, 2001


Honkie's looking like a hippocrate to me...... he talks about not fighting and all but he seems pretty into them just as much as the next guy.
from Allosaurischian, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


ONE WARNING:
Whoever likes Deinonychus here(I really do) better not READ Late May 2000 favorite dinosaurs, they were insulting Deinonychus so much that my Dad told me to chill.
GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

from A very ANGRY Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Honkie,u are right.No more vulger language and childish fights.
from Gloman, age 13, ?, New York, USA; November 14, 2001


Buffy C.-First of all I'm not humiliated by the least bit and a "comeback" is not needed.I was only tring to defend Da Masta,because I like him he's cool!I never knew someone who like dinosaurs as much as I do.So I was only tring to back up someone else too.I apoligize if my language was too harsh,but I do get mad if someone attacks me,a friend, or a family member.My name is supposed to be funny and stupid.
P.S.I think JC would agree with me.
Da 'real' Masta-Attacking someone for their own personal things they like to do is not nice either.If u attack people for that reason u are the one that doesn't have a life.I had a reason to attack u...attacking a friend.Buffy C.,I don't know why u want to back up someone who attacked someone else for no reason?!

from Gloman, age 13, ?, New York, ?; November 14, 2001


I think there are 769 valid non-neornithorean dinosaur genera.There are other genera that are synonymous missasigned etc. Of course, by adding birds you come up with much more.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Can someone please tell me how many dinosaurs there where?
from John. F, age 13, Edinburgh, ?, Scotland; November 14, 2001


Sorry, I spelled it wrong, it's Sarcosuchus, not Sarcosaurus.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Sarcosaurus imperator was a very large prehistoric Crocodile.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Dinosaurs from Western Australia?
Here you go: Rhoetosaurus brownei, Austrosaurus mckillopi. These are incomplete Sauropod skeletons. Muttuburrasaurus langdoni, the well known duck bill. Minmi paravertebra, the Nodosaur. A single bone of Theropod has been dicovered and was named Kakuru. Leaellynasaura amicagraphica, the Hypsilophodontid. And Timimus hermani, the Ornithomimid. I probably missed a couple so if you want a complete list of Australian dinosaurs, you can go to: www.alphalink.com.au/~dannj/alozdino.htm.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Megalosaurus was named in 1826 by a guy named Ritgen. There had already been some Iguanodon fossils discovered earlier,but they weren't yet formally described. So Megalosaurus was the first
non-neornithean dinosaur to be described. The first Megalosaurus (the one to be named in 1826) was M. bucklandii and it was first based on a jaw bone and some teeth discovered in England. Good enough?

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Yes, I think Micropachycephalosaurus is the longest Genus name.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


My theory is the Asteroid therory.
A 6 mile wide comet or asteroid hits the earth traveling at 18 mps,
These would be the immediate, regional effects: Blast wave, Base Surge, Tsunamis, Earthquakes, Vaporization of rock and water.
The short term global effects would be as follows: Global distribution of ejecta, which in turn would cause global wildfires.
The long term global effects would be: Acid rain, global darkness, and there would be a Greenhouse effect. This would be enough to knock off the dinosaurs I think. So I concur with that theory.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Why do we think Tim is smart, Buffy? Because he IS!
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Buffy, I have never said that I was smart, and if you would read my post carefully, you'd see I said 6 ft. not 6 meters!! Deinonychus is slightly less than twice the size of Velociraptor, which is where my 6 ft. estimate came from. Later I changed it to 4-5 ft.
Again, I have NEVER said that I was "Sooooooooo" smart. Never. I never even try to act like I know a lot about dinosaurs. So what if I know enough about them to make people think I'm good? What have I said that makes you think I'm stupid. (besides your misunderstanding of my last post). And I definetly didn't appreciate you coming in and saying you could answer any question better than any of us. You have nothing to say to me now. Don't be insulted, I'm just in a REALLY bad mood...

from An Angry Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


Hey I was gone for a couple of days, I read a couple of the new posts, and man there is some people who are really insulting. First of all, who cares if da masta is on all the time, it's a website, it's not illegal, and second of all, buffy you can't insult someone for their name they put on a website, thats just stupid. Also Buffy you don't like Tim because you think he's showing off. But when you say I can answer a question better than anyone on this website, that seems like your showing off.
from T-master, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


I have to agree with Honkie, it's ok to use CAPS once in a while to emphasise a point (which Honkie does). But this is where it becomes annoying:

"WHO WANTS TO GO ON A FLIPPIN' CHAT ROOM?! WHO WANTS TO GO ON A FLIPPIN' CHAT ROOM?! WHO WANTS TO GO ON A FLIPPIN' CHAT ROOM?! Who wants to go on an chaaaat room? WE CAN ARRANGE EVERYTHING, ALL I NEED TO KNOW IS THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED! IF U R NOT THEN POLITELY EXPLAIN!"

Do learn to chat normally...THIS KIND OF TYPING CAN GET ANNOYING, TIRING AND BREED CONTEMPT FOR THE WRITER. Personally, I find this "listen to me" style tiring and self-defeating and it causes people to look down on the writer.

Hey! I got I idea, since Microsoft wants to have a monopoly over everything, and this website is a virtual monopoly on the young reader audience...let's get them to sponsor us, promising them we will spread propongada for their latest plan for world domination...Windows XP...

...

Narrr...it'll be like selling your soul to the devil...I think we need to locate some more normal advertisers ASAP.
from Leonard, age 14, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


"can velociraptor's really comunicate with each other?"
I'd think they didn't have a complex language but they could give each other simple signals. Danger. Food nearby. Stuff like that. Also, I'm talking about REAL pack junters. Velociraptors where antisocial. Read my theory in an earlier post to find out.

Ye, also, I think certain people wheren't happy about the chat room failure. Sorry again. I'm sure it was good anyway. Who actually went? What happened?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


"I don't like the way "Da Masta" (ego!) is spamming the forum here with his mainly illegible posts in BIG bold caps and overdone expressions"

You use big bold caps too Honkie.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


What are you peoples theory on why dinosaurs became insticted?
from Mel ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001


"you need to be better than Tim M..."
And other people of course!

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


(Long, singular post to maximise bandwidth efficency by avoiding repeated server posts and those repeated Age/Date/Country/Blah and HTML straight rule insertions for multiple posts)

"Dear Jane,
The first dinosaur discovered was Iguanodon it was discovered by Buckland."

I believe that would be Megalosaurus, but Iguanodon was pretty close. However, it's entirely possible that the chinese would have being the first to discover and describe dinosaur fossils as "dragons". Griffins of lore are said to have being inspired by Protoceratops fossils. But if you are saying the first scientifically described dinosaur, it would be Megalosaurus.

"So how tall would you say Deinonychus is, Honkie Tong?"

What we need is an offical figure. I've seen 1:1 scale models of Deinonychus before, they're about a meter at the shoulder. I don't think it's useful to measure from the head, for their stance is unlike us humans and measuring from the head produces very ambugious results, let's go for a hip or shoulder mesurement. For most coelurosaurian short-necked dinosaurs are observed to have a length-hip height ratio roughly of 3:1, I project we can use this to derive Utahraptor's height:

20 / 3 = 6.6 feet

Let's try this for Tyrannosaurus rex:

40 / 3 = 13.3 feet

Velociraptor:

6 / 3 = 2 feet

It seems to work pretty well.

"the only reason i even wrote it was to get a reaction and it obviosly worked. Ha Ha Ha!!!

I dont really care to attack you because i actually have a life. Besides I think you were humiliated enough from BUFFY.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Gloman- first of all, oh my god dumb name, second of all what the h&^% makes you think someone would have to be brave to attack you.
Bye,

Although you were absolutley correct, id appreciate it if you stopped taking away my lime light.

Da'real'Masta-U really need to ...(moderated vulgarities) and get a life!"

For goodness sakes, this site already has enough bandwidth problems and could do without all this childish, irrevelant, off-topic posts. Not only are you leaching bandwidth by posting such immature rubbish, you are also making yourselves look really infantile at the same time. Believe me, you are not impressing anybody with this kind of talk. Whatever happened to the topic of dinosaurs. At least the Tyrannosaurus vs. (Insert upstart dino contender here) debates were educational and entertaining for they were full of witty comments and very informative and piercing arguments (Though I can't say the same for the other side, it's almost always a one sided battle). What we're getting here is nothing about dinosaurs at all, but a rather childish elementry classroom squabble that has to be broken up for the sanity of all. If you think you are mature, act like one and refrain from taking part in this rubbish.

Seesh...
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2001
Thanks Honkie. Fortunately, text costs very little; it is the pictures throughout the site that are the main bandwidth users (but the recent arguments are certainly off topic). Dinotalk accounts for about 1/3 of a percent of our site's traffic - it is not a problem. JC


Dear Jane,
The first dinosaur discovered was Iguanodon it was discovered by Buckland.

from Buffy, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Buffy C
I think that Da Masta was only tryingto help you by answering that question for u maybe you should try and give him some respect and say thanx instead of being such a snob!

from I'mQT, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


To GLOMAN- I dont really care to attack you because i actually have a life. Besides I think you were humiliated enough from BUFFY.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

from DA 'REAL' MASTA, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Alright Buffy C,
If you think you r so good then tell me what the first dinosaur's name was when it was discovered where it was discovered and by who as as well as why it was called that name!!!!

from I'mQT, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Dear Buffy
I would just like to thank you for stiking up for me for what that Gloman guy said.
Cheers, I owe ya one!!!

from DA 'REAL' MASTA, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


What the hell is with everyone out there thinking the TIM is sooooo smart. I mean thinking that a raptor could be 6m tall when its like 1m tall at the hips is just plain stupidity.
One hint Tim if your going to try and act like you know heaps about dinosaurs, DON'T, cause its not convincing!!!
Cheers.

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


HI I just wanted to say how unrealistic jurassic Park one was i didn't even bother to see the others.
Why can't they make movie with a more belevable storyline?
I'd also like to say That it really annoys me how people just assume what colours the dinosaurs were. Is there any proof of there colouring? Sorry if I'm completely out of line here!

from I'mQT, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Considering you are all so boring how about we get a new topic started.
Who out there believes that stegosaurus was the smartest of all dinosaurs?

from Missy, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


TO Da Masta
How long have u been studying dinosaurs?

from I'mQT, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


HI All
i was just wandering if any one knows what dinosaurs came from western Australia as i have an assignment to do. If you know can you tell me the first and the last ones discovered there?
Thanx

from I'mQT, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


So everyone i noticed you all werent too happy about the little comment i made about Da Masta. Well you guys ... the only reason i even wrote it was to get a reaction and it obviosly worked. Ha Ha Ha!!!
from DA 'REAL' MASTA, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


HI I'd just like to know what the first known dinosaur was?
And who discovered it?

from Jane M, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


HI I'm only new to this sight but after reading some of the comments i'd just like to say that Buffy C must have such low self esteem that she just has to make up for it by taking it out on all of us!
from Awhina M, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Da'real'Masta-U really need to ... and get a life! If Da Masta wants to spend a large amount of time on here that's fine.It's none of your bussinuss!I like to do the same,so why don't u be brave and attack me!C'mon!!!"
Gloman- first of all, oh my god dumb name, second of all what the h&^% makes you think someone would have to be brave to attack you.
Bye,
P.S. i'll be expecting some lame comeback!!!

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Buffy C, say that the longest name is Micropachycephalosaurus with 23 letters and the shortest is I think Minmi."
Da Masta- all i would like to say is thankyou but no thank you.
i believe that this particular question was directed at me! i do not appriciate you being a total show off and answering it before i even got a chance.
Although you were absolutley correct, id appreciate it if you stopped taking away my lime light.
Thanx

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


ive been wondering lately...what exactly is a SARCOSUCHUS IMPERATOR, i need to find this out by 11/13/01.. HELP ME!!!
from pedro, age 14, charlottesvilla, virginia, united states; November 13, 2001


"can velociraptors really communicate with each other?"
Animals have many different ways of communicating.
Some use physical displays, and others make sounds...
But the JP3 raptors that could vocalize is not true.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Yes, I agree, and I dis agree with my self. 6 ft. is a bit big for Deinonychus, but 4-5 ft. sounds good.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


dinosars are awesome! Istudied and studied about them for 4 weeks.
thats about all i have to say!

from amanda, age 10, Carpintersvill, IL, america; November 13, 2001


The shortest dinosaur name I'd ever heard of was Minmi.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Da'real'Masta-U really need to ... and get a life! If Da Masta wants to spend a large amount of time on here that's fine.It's none of your bussinuss!I like to do the same,so why don't u be brave and attack me!C'mon!!!
from Gloman, age 13, ?, New York, Proud to be American!!!; November 13, 2001


JC,could u connect me to Zoomstore,so I can see what u have.
from Gloman, age 13, ?, New York, USA; November 13, 2001
There are ads at the bottom of the page (but you need to be 18 or older to order!). JC


So how tall would you say Deinonychus is, Honkie Tong?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2001


I'm starting to see a very skewed view of Deinonychus vs. Velociraptor size estimates coming up around here:

There's actually quite a large size disparity between the two animals. Deinonychus was almost twice the size of Velociraptor and massed up to five times more. That's quite a large size difference.

Inaccucrate views of Velociraptor size seem to have increased drastically after the movie Jurassic Park (which still insists on calling their increasingly-close-to-Utahraptor size animals Velociraptor in the turdy third installment). And many people still persist in believing JP's "Velociraptor". You would think that after taking so many liberities with the novel, they might as well go on ahead and call their raptors Deinonychus or Utahraptor.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


I think it's time for us to get sponsored online by some big-shot musuem or educational group... we need more money! The ZoomStore is good, but the potential customer target audience is kinda limited. We need a broader, more diverse financial income base to support this site...hmm...how about getting schools to sponsor this page?
from Leonard, age 14, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001
For years, Disney sponsored us, but earlier this year, they stopped when they pretty much pulled out of the Internet (they've closed down many of their Internet divisions). JC


Oh yeah there's also the
Pteranodon swoopingisiz

meaning "Swooping toothless wing" He's one if the T.rexs' helperz.
from AMD, age 9, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


can velociraptor's really comunicate with each other?
from heather r, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Uh, thanks Buffy C.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Dear Buffy:

I would really like it if you could answer my query.

What exactly is the arctometatarsalian pes in the late Cretaceous Theropod? And what effect does it really have on the more gracile digitigrade theropods?

Thank you.
from Jeslyn L., age 13, Houston, Texas, USA; November 13, 2001


Hey all you people, I'm still in South America. Man you guys should see this giganotosaurus model of the real skelaton found. It makes me feel very small. I wen't to a dino museum today, and it's really cool. They have a ton of awsome fossils. Besides what I told you before, nothing new is going to happen except the new dino, and the triceritops found in Montana.
from *?*>, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Da Masta- im sorry to say but you were totally wrong about the question you answered for Natasha C. on the 1st of November.
Natasha C.- this is the correct answer, although 'Da Masta' was right about sauropods going on their hind legs to reach higher foliage Brachiosaurida could not do this."
Actually, yes. Brachiosaurids had forelimbs longer than hindlimbs, and keeping its neck upright all the time, if it tried to rock back on it's tail it would fall over and get very hurt and end up easy prey for carnivores.
Thanks.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Is Deinonychus really small(but taller than Velociraptor)?
Can Deinonychus jump good?
PLEASE ANSWER WHOEVER KNOWS!!!"
Dear Gianna,
It is believed that raptors are among the most intelligent of dinosaurs they have a relitivly large brain in comparrison to their body weight. Even so, they were definitly not as smart as what they were portrayed in the 'Jurassic Park' movies.
I know that Deinonychus was longer than Velociraptor, so i guess that means it was probably higher too(YES).
And as for weather it could jump good, im not sure but my guess is that it was a very good jumper(I THINK SO).
Hope that helps Gianna. Catcha!!!
Actually that's a good post there Buffy.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Can I ask you guys something?
Is Deinonychus really small(but taller than Velociraptor)?
Can Deinonychus jump good?
PLEASE ANSWER WHOEVER KNOWS!!!"

Yup. Deinonychus was up to 3m long, velociraptor 1.8m. Also, Deino was more robust, and stronger. Velociraptor was small, slim, slender, and not that powerfull. Deinonychus was stouter, more like a tyrannosaur than velociraptor.

Deinonychus I don't think was as smart as it's more slender cousins, the saurornithoidids, and troodontids. But still reasonably smart, it may have hunted in packs. Also, although it's legs where quite robust, they where very strong, so I think that they could jump quite well. Up to 3m forward and 2m high is my guess.
I think Tim's answer will be more accurate though. Go on Tim.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


da masta tells me things about honkie tong could you tell me things about the velociraptors my favourite
from God of Gamblers, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


i'm here to defend da masta i hear that a fake masta is ruining his reputation
from God of Gamblers, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


I will always spend lots of time here. I have never met so many people all interested in dinosaurs and I have a lot to talk about.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


To da real masta. I spend so much time here because this place is so damn good.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


esa, megaraptor isn't a dromaesaurid.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Who the H(*& is this "real master" idiot? Why don't you come up with a new debate topic instead of attacking me! I am a BOY, actually. Why are you so interested?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"I'd really like to get a new topic started!
Does anyone have any ideas?"
Ahhhhh... Ummmmmmm... How about... I used to be so good at saying controversial stuff... Ah... How about...

Ah, I'm sure Honkie or someone will come up with something.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Hmph! I'm not so sure about that...Buffy C...
from Ten-Shun, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001 "

Yes. To be the best you need to get better than Tim M. That is extremely hard.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


Buffy C, say that the longest name is Micropachycephalosaurus with 23 letters and the shortest is I think Minmi.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2001


"Also, what type of things would you like to see in the store? JC"

I'd like to see genuine dinosaur teeth, bone scraps, eggshell fragments... are dinosaur fossils ever in the $10-15 range?

I'd like to see the rare Safari Ltd. replicas that I don't already have- Dilophosaurus, Kronosaurus, and Carnotaurus.

Posters featuring work by Douglas Henderson, or (dare I dream?) Gregory Paul. I'd certainy buy those.

Clothing featuring accurate immages of dinosaurs. If there isn't a t-shirt with a therizinosaurid on it, there should be. :)
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2001
Thanks - we'll look into it (but I've never seen posters by them or good quality fossils in that price range!). I think Safari retired their Dilophosaurus. JC


"Even so, they were definitly not as smart as what they were portrayed in the 'Jurassic Park' movies."

Only Jurassic Park gives the 'raptors any kind of intelligence. The ones in JP3 are actually kind of stupid, despite the "smarter than primates" hype, when they ignore the opportunity to catch prey when the humans, returning the eggs, are just sitting there!
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2001


Six feet tall seems like an unusually tall measurement for Deinonychus, which was only a metre high at the hips. I asuppose it might be about four, four and a half feet tall to the top of its head, but not six.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2001


"Megaraptor is bigger dromaeosaurid"

There's serious contention to this idea, but the truth of the matter is, we know to little about this animal to determine what it really was. In any case, if it was a dromie, it was a primitive one. My guess is, it's location and timing makes it a relative of the dromies, but not a member of the family. There are some morphlogical considerations to work out in Megaraptor before lumping it as a dromie.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


OK Buffy C.
If you are so good answer this question for me.
Which dinosaur had the longest name and which had the shortest name!!!
Its been bugging me for a while!!!

from Natasha, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


"So if anyone out there has any questions they would like answed, then you can be sure to expect me to answer them better than anyone else on this site. "

Hmph! I'm not so sure about that...Buffy C...
from Ten-Shun, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


I'd really like to get a new topic started!
Does anyone have any ideas?

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


Deinonychus was 10 ft. long,,compared with Velociraptors 6 ft. This means that Velociraptor probably stood about 3 ft. and Deinonychus stood about 6 ft.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


"then you can be sure to expect me to answer them better than anyone else on this site..."
Whoa, don't get too cocky. I know I haven't really got a chance to know you that well, but there are people who are just as good as you.
(by the way, I know a few things about dinosaurs as well...)
I like the dramatic entrance and all, but please don't just come in and say you're the best, because if you do, people will not be rolling out the Welcome mat for you.
Have a good night.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


Da Masta- im sorry to say but you were totally wrong about the question you answered for Natasha C. on the 1st of November.
Natasha C.- this is the correct answer, although 'Da Masta' was right about sauropods going on their hind legs to reach higher foliage Brachiosaurida could not do this.

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


Hi Everyone,
My name is Buffy i am new to this site and i plan to stay on and talk to you guys whenever i can.
I am (i believe) a dinosaur expert. So if anyone out there has any questions they would like answed, then you can be sure to expect me to answer them better than anyone else on this site. And yes that even includes YOU, 'Da Masta'.
Well Catcha and get those questions rollin'!!!

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


"Is Deinonychus really small(but taller than Velociraptor)?
Can Deinonychus jump good?
PLEASE ANSWER WHOEVER KNOWS!!!"
Dear Gianna,
It is believed that raptors are among the most intelligent of dinosaurs they have a relitivly large brain in comparrison to their body weight. Even so, they were definitly not as smart as what they were portrayed in the 'Jurassic Park' movies.
I know that Deinonychus was longer than Velociraptor, so i guess that means it was probably higher too.
And as for weather it could jump good, im not sure but my guess is that it was a very good jumper.
Hope that helps Gianna. Catcha!!!

from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


Can I ask you guys something?
Is Deinonychus really small(but taller than Velociraptor)?
Can Deinonychus jump good?
PLEASE ANSWER WHOEVER KNOWS!!!

from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


"Actually, you know that time in the cretaceous, from which there are very few fossils? In America, A coelurosaur, a dromaesaur, and a therizinosaurid (nothronychus) where found from that very time, all with feathers. I think there where feather imprints all around them in the rocks. They had kinda shaggy coats of feathers."

I've heard of them. They were on that When Dinosaurs Roamed America "documentary", right? I didn't see that show, becuase I never know when those things are on (Discovery Channel in Canada has a different scedule than the Discovery Channel in America), and I don't think that those silly uninformative shows are worth watching anyway. While these animals were reported as being feathery in the news, I don't think any actual feathers were found with them. But its a good guess, because we have close relatives of these animals (Sinornithosaurus, Biepaosaurus) that were feathery.

"You said that there where loads of posts about coprolites! Ours are the only ones!"

I said questions about coprolites. Read the Zoom Dinosaurs Q&A page.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2001


Megaraptor is bigger dromaeosaurid
from esa, age 17, tampere, ?, suomi; November 12, 2001


I found Sean's post and I am discusted yet neutral.I happen to somewhat agree with Da Masta that Sean has been building up anger all this time,but that can not excuse compareing us to terrorists.Sean,if u think that we are like terrorists,than u should think twice.We did not kill anyone.
P.S.Even though your post was discusting I still think that u have the right to be on this forum.

from Gloman, age 13, ?, New York, USA; November 12, 2001


What day did Sean post that attack???
from Gloman, age 13, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


Will, we're talking about Sean's attack on Rex fans.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001


"The favorite dinosaurs section is blocked! I can't send messages on it!!"
I know, Gianna. That's why I want everyone to type up their messages on word and then send 1 message. I think It's because of all the work JC has to do.

"I would just like to say that all this T Rex *&^l#&*$ thats been going on is just pathetic. i mean who the (*&^ cares if you like trex or you dont, just get over it, its just one genus of dinosaur. Get over it and talk about some other dinosaur for a change."
That's why spino fans are spino fans. They want a change from T - rex and when a new dino appears in JP3 and beats T- rex that's a good excuse for them to be different. Fans of a new, "better" dinosaur.

"I think we should leave Seans comment behind and move on to other discussions."

I think I will have to agree with that.

""This is the first time he ha ever attacked anyone!"
No, da masta. Sean was attacking well before I even came to this site!
And besides, even if it was his first time, it wouldn't matter. That's a disgusting attack he made. And I don't undrstand why you're defending him..."

Thank you Tim. But I think that if he changes his ways he will soon get his respect up.

""Where were micropachy and wannanosaurus found? I know Yaverlandia is isle of wight... "
Micropachycephalosaurus is from the Wang Formation in Shandong, China. Wannanosaurus is from the Xiaoyan Formation in Anhui, China. Velociraptor hasn't been found with either of these dinosaurs, but they're all Campanian age."

Oh, right, thanks…
"they're all Campanian age."
I picked `em because I thought they lived at around the same time…

"I was never reluctant to believe in feathered dinosaurs, I just don't see any reason to put huge feathery manes on the back of every theropod's neck! I've never heard of any feathered dinosaur specimens from mid-Cretaceous America. Can you tell me anything more about them?"
Certainly Brad.
First, I also don't think all theropods had big feathery manes.
Actually, you know that time in the cretaceous, from which there are very few fossils? In America, A coelurosaur, a dromaesaur, and a therizinosaurid (nothronychus) where found from that very time, all with feathers. I think there where feather imprints all around them in the rocks. They had kinda shaggy coats of feathers.

But not all coprolites are dinosaur droppings, they can be the fossilized droppings of any animal. *yeah, yeah I know* Answered you about what?* You said that there where loads of posts about coprolites! Ours are the only ones!*

"I wouldn't really mind if his post at least had some dinosaurian content in it stating his case (which is a rather dead duck by now). But obviously the last post was nothing but a personal assualt on others (not to mention a degradory and sterotypical way of refering to the Afgan people). And utterly discusting way of behaving, be this the net or not."
OK, OK, I realise. Maybe he'll get better though. Let's see if he apologises?

Dino WCW is and will be real delayed. But it's worth the wait.

"I dunno...but your attack on Timmon seems entirely unwarranted (more of a painfully obvious overly defensive (ego!)instinct to me) and badly done at that. Timmon raised valid points by the way (rather nicely too) and your attacks veer off-topic anyway (Since when was this about the Brits anyway?). What's going on down there?"

I wasn't attacking Timmon! What are you ON ABOUT?! I'm just saying…

"Prehaps Mr. Dear Da Masta could type in less expression and greater clarity the next time round?"
I'll try. Anyway, those annoying expressions have a maddening effect on me. You being a regular here your opinion is important to me. Is that what you really think? Am I safe?

"What was the first creature ever? "
Simple bacteria. Actually, One - celled animals.

Nanana. I think people aren't sending 1 large message. Is that the problem JC? Too much messages to keep up with? Or something else?

Tom, I've seen your coloured Baryonyx. It looks very good now.

T - master. More trivia!

Also, if there's any hot news I wanna know. Phuleeeeease. It's not that easy to keep track of things in the dino world.

Too many people think dinosaurs are stupid, pea brained, and could only see movement. It makes me feel sad.

This should save lots of time for me and JC. When the vote thing becomes available I'll have LOT'S of messages to send.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2001
We're all having to spend more time working on the ZoomStore website (to pay for the bandwidth of this site). JC


To Da Masta
you seriously need to get a life you are on here way too often. By the way are you male or female.

from Da 'real' Masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


The favorite dinosaurs section is blocked! I can't send messages on it!!
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


I would just like to say that all this T Rex *&^l#&*$ thats been going on is just pathetic. i mean who the (*&^ cares if you like trex or you dont, just get over it, its just one genus of dinosaur. Get over it and talk about some other dinosaur for a change.
from Buffy C., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


I think we should leave Seans comment behind and move on to other discussions.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"This is the first time he ha ever attacked anyone!"
No, da masta. Sean was attacking well before I even came to this site!
And besides, even if it was his first time, it wouldn't matter. That's a disgusting attack he made. And I don't undrstand why you're defending him...

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"Where were micropachy and wannanosaurus found? I know Yaverlandia is isle of wight... "

Micropachycephalosaurus is from the Wang Formation in Shandong, China. Wannanosaurus is from the Xiaoyan Formation in Anhui, China. Velociraptor hasn't been found with either of these dinosaurs, but they're all Campanian age.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2001


"Actually, am I out of date again? Are staurik and herrera and euraptor considered prosauropods? So theropods and sauropods are all prosauropod descendants? WHY IS MY INFO SO OLD?! BOOOOO
HOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

Staurikosaurus, Hererrasaurus, and Eoraptor are currently classified as theropods by most experts. I'm personally not so sure about Eoraptor, but I need to do more research. I don't know how much support there is for the idea that prosauropods are the ancestors of theropods, but I think it has been suggested before.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2001


"I believe lot's of dinoz had feathers. I used to be like you Brad, reluctant to believe that. But after them mid cretacious finds in America, well..."

I was never reluctant to believe in feathered dinosaurs, I just don't see any reason to put huge feathery manes on the back of every theropod's neck! I've never heard of any feathered dinosaur specimens from mid-Cretaceous America. Can you tell me anything more about them?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2001


"Is allcoprolite dinosaur dropping?"

"Coprolites are dinosaur droppings, yes, Shilla.
You still haven't answered me Brad!"

But not all coprolites are dinosaur droppings, they can be the fossilized droppings of any animal. Answered you about what?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2001


"*HONKIE, I BET YOU ARE JUST ANGRY ABOUT T- REX FANS GETTING CUSSED! WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM, BY THE WAY, JUST OUT OF INTEREST?*"

Hardly, had the Sean in this case being a T.rex fan producing such a horrible post and using it on others, I would have reacted the same way too. Such behaviour cannot be tolerated coming from any quarter. Debates can degenerate into squabbling, but to come to such a point is utterly unacceptable. Even though I am not American, I can hardly see how this behaviour can be condoned.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"2) this is the first time he ever attacked anyone! Excuse him! at least this ONCE! Actually, tell me, has he done this before? Before I was here!?"

You seem woefully misinformed about Sean's great exploits in this forum and his great personal missions to discredit his opponents with irrevelant character assasination strikes whenever he's beaten fair and square. This is hardly the first time. It's sad to have people like this running around, with nothing up there but just dying to say something to make a senseless impact on others (aka. Attention seeker). Sorry, but let's introduce a concept here to those who are still unfamiliar with it called "Grow up".

I wouldn't really mind if his post at least had some dinosaurian content in it stating his case (which is a rather dead duck by now). But obviously the last post was nothing but a personal assualt on others (not to mention a degradory and sterotypical way of refering to the Afgan people). And utterly discusting way of behaving, be this the net or not.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"See!?! Americans aren't all nice! Like you thought! Shattered your little dream, huh!?! Sorry, just I had to say this. Some Americans think America is the best don't blame 'em, other people think so too about their countries, but.... (no messages saying "but what?" please!)

this person has no sense of shame. I THINK HE IS VERY ASHAMED NOW!"

I dunno...but your attack on Timmon seems entirely unwarranted (more of a painfully obvious overly defensive (ego!)instinct to me) and badly done at that. Timmon raised valid points by the way (rather nicely too) and your attacks veer off-topic anyway (Since when was this about the Brits anyway?). What's going on down there?
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


A prime case of an empty vessel makes the most noise.

I think we have to have a certain level of decora when adressing people around here. Frankly I don't like the way "Da Masta" (ego!) is spamming the forum here with his mainly illegible posts in BIG bold caps and overdone expressions. It kinda makes this entire forum illegible. Prehaps Mr. Dear Da Masta could type in less expression and greater clarity the next time round?

And by the way..."his"???"his"??? I'd think some people would stop rattling and start listening for once...they'll be better informed that way.
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


What was the first creature ever?
from caleb b, age 9, boulder, colorado, U.S.A.; November 11, 2001


There's so much else I could say, but... YOU CAN'T SEND MESSAGES IN THE DINO VOTE SECTION! BOO HOOOO HOOOOO! wAAAH! NOOOOOO! I WOULD HAVE SENT 60000000000000000000 MESSAGES IN THE DINO VOTE SECTION, BUT... SOB! i HAVE A PLAN. LET'S HELP JC AND HIS COMPUTER NOW. (THANKS FOR "LOL" JC!) WHEN WE WANT TO SEND MESSAGES, WE TYPE 'EM UP ON WORD, AND THEN SEND 1 SUPERMESSAGE! Please do as I said! For your own good! As of now!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001
His?? JC


i like spinosaurs becouse he/she is alot cooler than t-louser.
he is somewhat taller than t-louser.
OH yeah i feel real real sorry for t-louser fans.
becouse t-louser is stupid.
from spinogirl, age ????, ????, ????, ????; November 9, 2001

Well, Spinogirl. You really are going to upset some Rex fans. And me. Don't cuss T - Rex like that. By the way, the name you have invented is... well, I like it. Don't cuss rex though.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"Is allcoprolite dinosaur dropping?"

Coprolites are dinosaur droppings, yes, Shilla.
You still haven't answered me Brad!

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


Sauropods and ankys are neither small nor ornithopod.

Firstly, I would like to start by stating the fact that I am not a fan of
Tyrannosaurus Rex.

When I saw the events of the terrorist attacks on the United States unfold on the
BBC, one can only imagine the sheer terror and carnage in New York. What I do
find very strange is how a person, an American at that, could use this event as
some kind of perverse political levering tool to be thrown around in a debate that
is not even remotely on the point of terrorist attacks. I do agree with Honkie my
lad, that this person has no sense of shame. It's amazing he even dares to consider
himself an American, and still have the fortitude to behave in such a hippocratic
manner. What the devil is America coming to?

See!?! Americans aren't all nice! Like you thought! Shattered your little dream, huh!?! Sorry, just I had to say this. Some Americans think America is the best don't blame 'em, other people think so too about their countries, but.... (no messages saying "but what?" please!)

this person has no sense of shame. I THINK HE IS VERY ASHAMED NOW!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


My favorite dinosaur is spinosarus
from dude, age 8, star city, INDIANA, U.S.A; November 11, 2001


Nemegtosaurus is a Late Cret sauropod, but raptor's couldn't hunt it
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


Hello, you won't believe me but I am one month into the future. Let me give u
some news about up coming dino events. Not much. A triceritops will be found in
Montana, USA on the day after Thanksgiving. And on December 1st. A new
dinosaur will be found in Bolivia, South America. Today is December 8 for me. Oh
yah the new dinosaur is not known, as a carnivore or omnivore yet. Your probably
thinking, How would this person know that a new dino is discovered. Well my
parents are paleos, They work in the US. Our buddies in South America were told
about it and now we're down in South America.

If your parents are paleos does that make them psychic too!?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


Staurikosaurids/Hererrasaurids have sometimes been regarded as prosauropods in
older books, but they're usually classified as theropods now.

Ohhhhhh!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


If I was barred from this site I would jump off a rather large building, so I think this is only for X - treme circumstances! Sean's one of us!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"also, where's skeptic latley?"

"I have been humbled with that last expanding earth theory, it was wrong.......and *nanana, I sided with you, and I'm not going!*
well I don't feel that's there much I can really debate about, most of you know
much more not just about dinosaurs but other tings too (I'm talking about Brad,
Honkie Tong, etc.) So I visit this board usually only to read what these real smart
people have to say. *hey! I debate,and almost all here know more than me abot dinoz and other things! Join in!*

However, I am offended by Sean's horrible attack on us T. Rex fans. I find that his
comments are very low and small, as in bad. Well, small insults for *d'you mean "from"* small minds.

Comparing us to terrorists is sick. I know it hasn't been done and probably won't,
but if anyone was to ever be barreed from this board it should be him." *that's quite harsh! he'll probably go for good now! Some of you are thinking "GOOD!" but I reckon we should give him a chance. I'm all for it! What about you guys?*

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


Regarding Tom's latest art, I don't know what a feathered Utahraptor would look
like. Both the feathered an unfeathered drawings look feathery to me. I'm not a big
fan of theropods with elaborate display feathers, but I do like this one!

I do wonder about the big fans of feathers sometimes placed on the ends of
dinosaur tails. Does the skeletal structure of the dromaeosaur tail suggest the
presence or absence of a feather fan? How would it affect the function of the tail as
a balancing pole while running/jumping?

Honkie said that study said that utahras couldn't jump well, but I don't believe him! Sorry Honkie! I believe lot's of dinoz had feathers. I used to be like you Brad, reluctant to believe that. But after them mid cretacious finds in America, well...
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


Apart from that I think the hindlegs would be a bit longer, that is accurate Tom G. Never mind, It's a good picture.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"T REX FANS ARE NOTHING LIKE TERRORISTS!!!!! THEY DID NOT KILL
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE!!!!!!! YOUR MIND MUST BE REALLY #$%(* (* TO
EVEN THINK THAT!!!"

I think Sean was bottling up anger for ages and then exploded. Oh dear... I don't think he meant it...
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


Da Masta, shame on you to dare to ally yourself with such an atrocity!

1) technically I never said I WAS allying myself with him. Are you declaring war on him? Why? 'Cause

2) this is the first time he ever attacked anyone! Excuse him! at least this ONCE! Actually, tell me, has he done this before? Before I was here!?
from DA MASTA, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


WOW

Wicked site Brad! You're our main and best supplier of other good dinosaur sites! Cool! T- master! Check it out! Your favourite dino is the first sculpture there! Actually, am I out of date again? Are staurik and herrera and euraptor considered prosauropods? So theropods and sauropods are all prosauropod descendants? WHY IS MY INFO SO OLD?! BOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


I won't even bother to post out my own comments on Seans' discusting post. But let's just say the outburst of outrage from rex and non-rex fans alike shows just how far he crossed the line this time. Anybody seeking to ally with him better think twice, they are not only discrediting themselves as Americans, they are also condoning such erratic behaviour. It's good to see even people opposed to rex are not going along with Sean. Sorry Sean, you really did yourself in this time. :)
from Leonard, age 14, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


"Asia just had small
marginocephalians, the pachycephalosaurs and the protoceratopids."
Well them then! And small furry creatures*!

*often called mammals!

Actually, I doubt it hunted large boneheads.

Where were micropachy and wannanosaurus found? I know Yaverlandia is isle of wight...

And one last thing for Brad. What did Chandler say?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


I see this site is running into some bandwith problems due to heavy traffic.

Actually is more of good news rather then bad news. With such heavy traffic on dinosaurs, it would make this page extremely attractive for musuems or other related sponsors to advertise here. I mean, this site is after all the one with the largest audience demographic (young and old) andwould be extremely attractive to higher bidding sponsors who want to get their message across to the targeted audience. On the other hand, prehaps removing unnecessary HTML files like the wrestling forum can prevent people from stumbling across them and leaching bandwith. Prehaps even eliminating or downsizing some of the graphics that people are have to download when they(erm, not the dino fan pics ones though) arrive on the index.htm would go a long way in cutting bandwith. Making a 20kb file 15kb would mean a saving of 5mb per thousand viewers...

Then again...you could use more sponsors...

Any other ideas anyone else?
from Leonard, age 14, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001
Good points. JC


The Zoom Dinosaurs store doesn't really have anything that I want. Can I just send you money?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2001
Thanks, but that's not necessary - we'll always stay on line (we love this site too much to let it go), but we may have to go to a subscription model in the future if traffic keeps going up, and click rates, advertising rates and sales keep going down. Also, what type of things would you like to see in the store? JC


I accidentaly pressed a "send" hotkey before I could type:

Have a nice day *SOME CONTRAST THERE!*
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


It's great to see that Sean has finally really admited he lost it all by his behaviour
(not that anybody really cared). Being beaten in all corners and on all counts, he
desperately resorts to infantile and offensive remarks, impressing not really
offending anybody, only suceeding in making a public spectacle (and fool) of
himself. *THAT'S A LITTLE HARSH, HONKIE. WHEN HE WAS A PRIEST OF THE REX CHURCH HE WASN'T NASTY TO ANYONE. AT LEAST WHEN I WAS HERE. AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE'S EVER BEEN LIKE THIS (AT LEAST WHEN I WOZ ERE.) SO LET'S JUST IGNORE WHAT HE SAID. AND NOT BEAT HIM UP OVER IT. OK?* By even daring to compare T.rex fans here and saying they are no better
then the terrorists behind to sept 11 attacks *ACTUALLY, REX FANS CAN BE NASTY, BUT ONLY A FRACTION OF THEM, (I AM A REX FAN, SO IS GAINNA AND HONKIE AND GLOMAN AND AARON,) AND NO REX FAN EVER GOT ANYWHERE NEAR AS NASTY AS THEM TERRORISTS, (WHAT IF THERE WAS A REX FAN TERRORIST ON THE ONE OF THE PLANES? HOW DO YOU KNOW? OMLY JOKING,) BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT SEAN WAS SERIOUS.*...well lets just say it's not only a
statement T.rex fans will not bother about...it's a statement nobody will bother to
listen too. *YOU DID* Making this kind of statement shows nothing of the person who made it
and instead of discrediting his opponents, makes the statement-maker look bad
instead. Nobody is really pushing him, he's just hurting his own case by making
statements like this. This person's influence here is finished, kaput. He just shot
himself in the foot, nice going... I got news for this person: Not only is everybody
going to ignore what he's just said, but to the contray, I am predicting a massive
disapproval of this person from all quarters. * GIVE HIM A CHANCE, C'MON! IT'S ALL ABOUT FORGIVENESS... IF REX FANS EVER FORGIVE, THAT IS, BUT I THINK YOU CAN HONKIE!* You can't just come in here and start
saying people are no better then terrorists and get away with it. * I DOUBT HE WAS SERIOUS* It's a good thing
this is the net, for if people were less kind, such remarks will cost the owner a great
due in legal matters. *REALLY?* And it is my advice to Sean that he should withdraw his
statements unconditionally or face the consequences, I'm afraid such behaviour
and political gansterism cannot be tolerated here * I APOLOGISED WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE. I'M SURE IF HE DOES HE'LL BE FORGIVEN, LIKE I WAS.* . To make amends, Sean should:

1) Withdraw all accusations unconditionally that T.rex fans are no better then
terrorists, and apologise for making that statement.
* POSSIBLY. BUT WAS HE SERIOUS?*
2) Behave in a way that is sportsmanlike when it comes to debate
* YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS "sportsmanlike" HONKIE! YOU ARE SAFE, BUT YOU GET PASSIONATE ABOUT T - REX! AND SOMETIMES A BIT OVER THE TOP! I'M NOT ACCUSING YOU OR ANYTHING, BUT...*
3) Refrain from making such accusations in the future.
* NOTHING TO SAY!*
It may sound harsh, but these recent verbal attacks are absolutely discusting and
paethetic, daring to exploit the thousands of innocent lost lives in September 11 *HONKIE, I BET YOU ARE JUST ANGRY ABOUT T- REX FANS GETTING CUSSED! WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM, BY THE WAY, JUST OUT OF INTEREST?*
like another commodity to add more shock value to one's statements. This shows
an utter disregard and atrocious disrespect for such a tragic incident. *EVEN THOUGH IT IS A POINT, YOU ARE JUST ANGRY ABOUT REX FANS GETTING CUSSED!* It's not a nice
task to turn out such a post on my side, but it's necessary, to do justice to the lost
innocents and my friends, American or not, heckled and maligned by such online
atorocities. *IT WASN'T that BAD HONKIE!*

Have a nice day. *
from Honkie Tong,

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2001


What are we talking about?
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