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Dino Talk Oct. 26-28, 2001: A Dinosaur Forum

idiots i am the best
from karina, age 10, ?, ?, iran; October 28, 2001


velociraptor
height:2 metres tall
place:montana,asia
walking speed:15 kmph
running speed.50 kmph
i like this pack hunter because it has a 6 inch sickle shape retractable claw.

from sam, age 9, melbourne, victoria, australia; October 28, 2001


Do you THINK I want to impress people, Fd? I CAN tell stories very well. Just get off my case.
from Gianna-irritated, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Actually, youre right, da masta. I do admire Tim. For his knowledge. And he is nice.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


"Also, BRAD, you said earlier that the "spinosaurids where put together because their dentaries where consticted behind the fourth tooth." EXPLAIN BRAD."

I'm pretty sure I didn't say that. That's just part of the modern definition of Spinosauridae that palaeontologists use today. The currently accepted view of Spinosauridae includes Baryonyx, Suchomimus, Spinosaurus, and Irritator.

Your Spinosauridae (Spinosaurus, Becklespinax, Metriacanthosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus) was based on elongated vertebral spines, and is no longer accepted by palaeontologists.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 28, 2001


"2:Gryponyx is an invalid name for which dinosaur?"

Massospondylus.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 28, 2001


"Also, dilpohposaurs' dentaries are blah blah blah blah behind their fourth tooth. I noticed. Looks like more typing Brad."

I don't understand that. You can't put blah blah blah in place of an idea and expect us to kno what you're saying.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 28, 2001


OK, Fd, I'm not in the mood. SORRY. Get your point across, but no offensive material. You had better comply.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Gianna - I was reading everyone's stories. You had loads! wow! Good too. Nice humour there. DinoJim - I don't know, because in the story thing you didn't put your name as DinoJim. But I read almost everyone's. Well, tried. They are good.

I never tell anyone MY dreams. But it's your choice. I'm just saying about myself...
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


one on one it's too obvious.
Tyrannosaurus.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Da masta, no insult, but if you are really in the mood for such hard questions,
answer these:
1:When was the dubious genus "Lancangosaurus" described?
Ah, 1980's. I reckon.
2:Gryponyx is an invalid name for which dinosaur?
Gryffin claw? Hmmm. A therizinosaur? But they had quite straight claws. A theropod?
3:What excatly is an Eolosaurus?
Now here I'm unsure. Not a real genus. I think it is an invalid name for another species.
Tim - I knew my questions. Apart from 1/6th of the last one. And I did not cheat. Trivia is to make you THINK. And that's what yours did. I had a good time. Thank you. Now try mine. If you already haven't. But then Brad's done it.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Fd - ur just jealous of my knowledge. Tim and Brad and others know many things I don't know. I know a few things they don't know. You know nothing I don't know. Sorry, but I get upset.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


1) tail vertabra cupped at the rear. OPISTHOCOELICAUDIA
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


BUT velociraptors are not losers.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


? - you where right about T rex kiking velociraptor a)(. Sorry raptor fans. Read one of my earlier messages in the "vote ur fav dino" forum. It was greeted with enthusiasm. Fd, no SAD Fd style comments. PLEASE.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


sorry Gianna, the box where you type is at the top the screen where you type a message to go in the froum.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


canadensis?! OBVIOUSLY Canada! R U Canadian?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Nanosaurus is the smallest hypsilophodontid. It means "dwarf lizard" so I thought...
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


SORRY! my mistake, Eoceratops = Chasmosaurus canadensis
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


I got 2 new dino encyclopedia with some of my savings! Yeah!
Eoceratops I think is now a separate genus from chasmosaurus.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


You can talk Tim. (no offence)
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Erik K - dilophosaurs COULD have spat, just nobody knows because bones can't tell us about spitting.

Also, T Rex was not THE best. ONE OF the best. Tim M, yes, that's good. Another rex fan who doesn't hate all other dinosaurs. Good.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Gianna - NOT THAT IT'S MY BUSINESS BUT...
Having a dream with Tim in it means you admire him. No, I'm not trying to be sad, I admire 'im too 'cos he's clever and doesn't cuss like fd (go away fd.)So that's it really.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Fd, sorry but:

Ah, can't bring myself to do it. I've thought up a really horrible "your mum" cuss. But that's not what this site is for as TIM M said. Now ^&(* off and let me ask trivia questions and debate in peace.
from da masta mad now, calm down slowly, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


FD - If you decide to come back (hopefully never.) I knew these questions WITHOUT encyclopedia. (apart I don't know two out of the twelve stages.) Fifteen times? your sad. Sorry, but I am too honest. I don't lie to be nice often. Don't get too mad honkie. I am only trying to get a point across. At least the regulars here tolerate me. Those damn bloody impudent people who just come here once and insult someone... bah. Gianna - your imagination impresses me. I'd agree with Brad that "tankaceratops" is the best one. Also, BRAD, you said earlier that the "spinosaurids where put together because their dentaries where consticted behind the fourth tooth." EXPLAIN BRAD.Everything right, cretacious stages wrong, teratosaurids:
Teratosaurus
Zanclodon
Basutodon
Picrodon

Also, dilpohposaurs' dentaries are blah blah blah blah behind their fourth tooth. I noticed. Looks like more typing Brad.

Gianna - you know at the top of the screen you get when that screen comes up saying "click here to go back to the forum" or something? After U've posted a message? Yeah? At the top there's a kind of little box, and you type in "MESOZOIC MUMBLINGS" and press enter. I might use "paleochat" instead. I'll inform you. And please turn up everyone. It's worth waiting for the java thingie to load. T - master. I don't know. Try anyway.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


"Brad how do you draw a dinosaur running from front on. Because when I try it just looks like the dinosaurs standing there not moving."

http://dinosauricon.com/images/tyrannosaurus-gallimimus-jm3.html
http://dinosauricon.com/images/carcharodontosaurus-bb.html

from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


"Re:Dinos in S-E-Asia? Extra extra read all about it!A new dinosaur was found in Thailand,abive Malaysia and Singapore!An exciting find to the Thai scientist;Mr varavudth who spends his time digging in caves and hilltops.The dinosaur is still yet to be named."

Do you know what kind of dinosaur it is? Dinosaurs in Thailand is not that surprising. Isanosaurus, the Triassic sauropod named last year, is also from Thialand. There's also Siamotyrannus, the primitive tyrannosaurid; spinosaur teeth, a species of Psitaccosaurus, and a possible ornithomimid that is not yet officialy named.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 28, 2001


FD's is right, in fact, I was going to say those excact things!
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


"I think it's Archeoceratops oshimai."
Yes it is, I made a spelling error.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


I once read a long time ago that it took 8 velociraptors to kill rex. But now from the more evidence we have it would probably atleast take twelve velociraptors to possibly kill a t-rex.

And in JP, it is said that the raptors are velociraptors but they have the body shape of a utahraptor, because right before JP (the first movie) was directed and out on video, utah raptor was found in utah. The directors thought utah raptor was more frightening than velociraptor so they used utah raptor and named it the more common and famous velociraptor.
from T-master, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Well, T-Rex was NOT the biggest and bestest. Allosaurus, Giganatosaurus and Deinonychus were probably more vicious and meaner.
from Mike, age 11, ?, ?, USA; October 28, 2001


"Info about Janzosiraptor, Ezensaura, and Tankoceratops(for Brad)

Janzosiraptor was as tall as a Utahraptor. It hunted in packs, and in the mating season, mates pair for life. The female has it easier than the male. The male has to hunt most of the time and bring prey back to its mate.
Prey of Janzosiraptor:
Tankoceratops, Triceratops, Ornithomimus, all the mimuses except Nochismimus, a HUGE Ornithomimid.
Ezensaura was related to Tyrannosaurus Rex. Most of its skeletons found were female, naming it "saura" instead of "saurus". Ezensaura were a couple of inches shorter than T.Rex. They were one inch taller than Tyrannosaurus Baatar when adults. Ezensaura did not scavenge. it ran slower than T.Rex though.
Prey of Ezensaura:
Nochismimus, Triceratops, all of the mimuses. Tankoceratops was not prey they were too dangerous.
Tankoceratops was a little bit like an Iguanadon. It walked on four legs, but ran on two. Tankoceratops was more like a Ceratopsian because of its horns. It used them for attack on predators and mating scuffles. Tankoceratops was an omnivore, a scavenger for meat but mostly ate plants. This was a first. Tankoceratops was a very successful dinosaur.
How'd you like that."

Mindless...speculation...speculation...speculation. You're impressing no one with your storytelling skills.
from Fd, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


Hmmm...I project it would take about 100 to 200 velociraptors to kill a T-Rex. And in that case, they would still take horrendus losses. The problem arises is that Velociraptor is generally uncapable of doing any sort of much harm to Tyrannosaurus (I suspect they would even have a very hard time penetrating the skin), while Tyrannosaurus could easily kill Velociraptor, even accidently if you might put it. Heck they might not even be able to hurt T-Rex enough to make him angry. And I doubt Velociraptor went around of groups of anywhere near a hundred anyway. So in any case, T-Rex would win almost all of the time. A Velociraptor pack would be no sweat for him (It's kinda tatamount to pitting mice against lions). As for the larger raptors, the size difference is still big enough to be like pitting a bunch of housecats against a lion, still no great fight.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


We're stating simple, well established facts Masta, Tyrannosaurus was very coelurosaurian, and going by functional morphlogical design (I learnt that from Honkie), if he was going to have any sort of poor vision, the rest of dinosauria must be virtually blind. And for your information, tests done on T.Rex bite marks found indicate that this animal could bite extremely hard, harder then any animal that ever lived. Please don't insult T.Rex fans when they prove you wrong, they have being around here for much longer then you and have not come across and handled an argument before that you have not come up with. Stop acting like a child.

And I searched up the gravitional stuff, it turned out that gravity now is actually WEAKER then it was last time, if the earth was expanding. According to scientist who study the stuff.
from Fd, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 28, 2001


"Who do you think would win-T-rex or Velociraptor m."
First of all, what's the " m."
Anyway, a single T-Rex against a single Velocirator, well, that's not much of contest... T-Rex was certainly capable of fighting off possibly a good deal of Velociraptors at a time, but I'm not the type of T-Rex fan who says all other dinosaurus )(*&. So I would say a large group of Velociraptor could kill a T-rex. But otherwise T-Rex has the advantage.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"AND TYRANNOSAURUS HAD SMALL EYES"

You're kidding, Honkie dosen't even have to answer you. The biggest eye record of the dinosaurs if I remember, goes to Tyrannosaurus rex. I wonder what does Horner even mean by small eyes? In proportion to size? Tyrannosaurs eyes were very large and as Bakker said, beadly-eyed. I think what Horner meant was that it's visual lobes were small compaired to it's smelling lobe, but on the other hand, it's visual lobes were still considerably more advanced then that of any dinosaur, save for the troodonids. Even the raptors could not beat Tyrannosaurus vision. I'm sorry, but the notion of Tyrannosaurids have any sort of poor vision is a myth.
from Fd, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"Wasn't Eoceratops (represented by a juvenile) sunk into Chasmosaurus?"
Well, I read that Eoceratops COULD have been simply a juvenile Chasmosaurus, but it hasn't been officialy "sunk" into Chasmosaurus.
I don't know if this is quite up-to-date, so correct me if I'm wrong.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"T REX DOESN'T HAVE JAWS TWELVE TIMES MORE POWERFULL THAN THE NEXT MOST POWERFULL DINOSAUR! "

You're right, fifteen times is more accucrate.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Da Masta, please read a book before you come in here...you know virtually next to nothing about dinosaurs. Sorry, this is supposed a dissussion forum, not a forum to shoot your mouth off disclaimed how people should be ashamed, for I have being observing you and all I can say is that YOU'RE WRONG!

And I'm not even a T.Rex fan, dinosaurs are not crap, you are.
from Fd, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"Disturbing??"
Yes, well what would you expect?! No one has ever dreamed about me besides my little bro., and now the secind person to do this is someone I've never met in person! Anyway, this was not an insult...

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


T.Rex is freakin' tough mean, T.Rex dosen't even have to bite the raptors, all he has to do is to hit them with any part of his body, intentional or not, and the lightly-built raptors will be greviously injured. The claws of the raptors were meant for much smaller prey, the aren't goning to be of much use against a rex. It's like firing a bb gun onto an oncoming train. Raptors were supposed to hunt (in a pack) things that were only half T.Rexes' size and not even a tenth as mean. Raptors r losers.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Info about Janzosiraptor, Ezensaura, and Tankoceratops(for Brad)

Janzosiraptor was as tall as a Utahraptor. It hunted in packs, and in the mating season, mates pair for life. The female has it easier than the male. The male has to hunt most of the time and bring prey back to its mate.
Prey of Janzosiraptor:
Tankoceratops, Triceratops, Ornithomimus, all the mimuses except Nochismimus, a HUGE Ornithomimid.
Ezensaura was related to Tyrannosaurus Rex. Most of its skeletons found were female, naming it "saura" instead of "saurus". Ezensaura were a couple of inches shorter than T.Rex. They were one inch taller than Tyrannosaurus Baatar when adults. Ezensaura did not scavenge. it ran slower than T.Rex though.
Prey of Ezensaura:
Nochismimus, Triceratops, all of the mimuses. Tankoceratops was not prey they were too dangerous.
Tankoceratops was a little bit like an Iguanadon. It walked on four legs, but ran on two. Tankoceratops was more like a Ceratopsian because of its horns. It used them for attack on predators and mating scuffles. Tankoceratops was an omnivore, a scavenger for meat but mostly ate plants. This was a first. Tankoceratops was a very successful dinosaur.
How'd you like that.

from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Re:Dinos in S-E-Asia? Extra extra read all about it!A new dinosaur was found in Thailand,abive Malaysia and Singapore!An exciting find to the Thai scientist;Mr varavudth who spends his time digging in caves and hilltops.The dinosaur is still yet to be named.
from Donovna c., age 12, ?, singapore, ?; October 27, 2001


I CAN'T FIND MESOZOIC MUMBLING, DA MASTA!!

Where is it??
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Raptors mey be able to beat T.rex but I doubt it. They have no reason to fight T.Rex.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"Nice, but a bit disturbing."

Disturbing?? I can't control my dreams! It just happened to be like that. Dreams are supposed to be that way. I doubt I'll dream about you again.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Brad how do you draw a dinosaur running from front on. Because when I try it just looks like the dinosaurs standing there not moving.
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"Eoceratops canadensis(guess where it was found!)"

Wasn't Eoceratops canadensis (represented by a juvenile) sunk into Chasmosaurus? Or is it valid again?

"Archeoceratops simai"

I think it's Archaeoceratops oshimai.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


Who do you think would win- T. rex or Velociraptor m.? Remember, Jurassic Park has many, many bloopers. (Dilophasaurus can't spit, raptors aren't even half the size, T.rex could be able to see non-moving things,etc.) I think Raptors would win. Raptors have arms,claws, & speed. T.rexes have large heads, but look at their arms!!!!!!
from Eric K, age 13, Moorestown, NJ, USA; October 27, 2001


Now that I have tried to name as many of the Tyrannosauria and the Stegosauria as I could, I will try the same with the Ceratopsia.
By the way, Gianna, I liked your made-up dinosaurs :)
Here we go:
Anchiceratops ornatus, Arrhinoceratops brachyops, Asiaceratops salsopaludalis, Avaceratops lammersi, Bagaceratops rozhdestvenskyi(did I spell that right?), Brachyceratops montanensis, Ceratops montanus (I read this dinosaur might be really a Chasmosaurus), Chasmosaurus belli, Claorhynchus trihedrus (spelling? again), Dysganus encaustus, Eoceratops canadensis(guess where it was found!),
Centrosaurus apertus, Leptoceratops gracilis, Microceratops gobiensis, Monoclonius crassus, Montanoceratops cerorhychus(spelling?), Pachyrhinosaurus canadensis, Pentaceratops stenbergii(spelling??), Polyonax mortuarius(possibly a Torosaurus or a Triceratops), Protoceratops andrewsi, Psittacosaurus mongoliensis,
Styracosaurus albertensis, Torosaurus latus, Triceratops horridus, Turanoceratops tardabilis, Ugrosaurus olsoni, Zuniceratops christopheri, Einiosaurus procurvicornis, Achelousaurus horneri,
Agathaumus sylvestris, Archeoceratops simai, Breviceratops kozlowskii, Diceratops hatcheri.
I know more Ceratopsians, but I don't have time to state them because I've got somewhere to go. I'll be back later with the rest.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Tom G., no, that therory does not apply to Brachiosaurids.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


As for your post on T-Rex and Carcharodontosaurus, I'll let Honkie or someone have their say about that. I'm not in the mood for T-Rex arguments.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Da masta, no insult, but if you are really in the mood for such hard questions, answer these:
1:When was the dubious genus "Lancangosaurus" described?
2:Gryponyx is an invalid name for which dinosaur?
3:What excatly is an Eolosaurus?

You must understand that on a normal occasion I wouldn't put up such
Trivial questions, but I must admit I was a bit outraged when I saw
that you were asking " name four Teratosaurids" etc. It doesn't really prove much when you look up the hardest dinosaur questions you can, and then post them...

And of course, I don't expect you to look these questuons up, because that is kinda-sorta cheating!
If you can answer them, great.
Again, this is not an insult. My point is that you shouldn't post such hard questions!

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Hi!
I like Alosaurus and Tyranosaurus rex. They are cool.

from Allorex, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Goody, new posts.
Da masta,some of your questions aren't trivia, there a test of your dino-encyclopedia...

"I had a dream about you..."
Nice, but a bit disturbing.

"Thanks Tim"
You are very welcome

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Has anybody read my stories yet?
from DinoJim, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Thanks Tim!
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


does the theory that says sauropods like diplodicus couldn't move there neck very high applie to sauropods like Brachiosaurus?
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


I like the "Tankoceratops"!
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


I don't wanna wait. These are the dinos I made up.
Salidon-group:dromaeosaur-period:late Cretaceous-most common weapon:mouth
Janzosiraptor-group:dromaeosaur-period:late Cretaceous-most common weapon:mouth
Ezensaura-group:Tyrannosaurid-period:late Cretaceous-m.c.w.:mouth
Nochismimus-group: Ornithomimid-period:late Cretaceous-m.c.w.:legs
gestemimus-group:Ornithomimid-period:late Cretaceous-m.c.w.: arms
Logsignathus-group:unknown. Whatever group Compsagnathus is in.-period:mid Jurassic-m.c.w.: mouth
Tankoceratops-group:Ceratopsian-period: late Cretaceous-m.c.w.: horns
What's your fave out of these I made up?

from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"1) The dinosaur OPISTHOCOELICAUDIA, what kind of a dinosaur was it? What family? History? HERE'S the KICKER: What Does It's Name Mean!?! Hahahahahahahahahaha no - one'll ever answer that!!!!!!!!!"

It's a sauropod, classified either a camarasaurid or a titanosaurid. (I think it may be in Titanosauridae now.) I think it was named in 1977, found on that Polish Gobi expedition. Means "Opisthocoelus tail", or "backwards cup tail", in reference to the way the caudals articulate.

"2) Name FOUR teratosaurids!"

I honestly wouldn't expect there to be four valid "teratosaurids" Teratosaurus is one. Maybe something like Bautsodon, and Zlancodon?

"3) Name TWO things which EMBASAURUS and MACRODONTOPHION have in common with one another!"

They're dubious theropods, once considered Megalosauridae but now usually just regarded as Theropoda I.S. They were found somewhere around Russia, although i'm not sure where.

"4) Name TWO dinosaurs which had two V shaped crests above their heads!!!!!!"

Dilophosaurus wetherilli (=D. breedorum, according to Rob Gay) and Dilophosaurus sinensis (which may not be a Dilophosaurus).

"5) What is the SMALLEST HYPSILOPHODONTID?!?"

Depends on your usage of Hypsilophodontidae. I'm not sure what's still in this family.

"7) Name ALL the stages of the cretacious period in order!"

I'd proably come really close, but fail, so I won't try. Could you do that without consulting a book?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


"If Acrocanthosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, and Becklespinax aren't spinosaurids, then what are they classified as now?"

Acrocanthosaurus is an allosaurid. Metricanthosaurus may be a sinraptorid, according to dinosauricon.com, or a megalosaurid. Becklespinax is some sort of megalosaur or other basal tetanuran.

"And what happened to Altispinax? If it's only known from a tooth, then what could it be? I reckon if it was put as a spinosaurid because of it's tooth being elongated and straight, it should be kept a spinosaurid for the time being."

It was put as a spinosaurid because the Becklespinax vetrebrae were (inconclusively) referred to it. The Altispinz tooth actually has a pretty good curve to it. It's not spinosaurid.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


"Who here knows about "TERATOSAURIDS?" Some paleontologists think they aren't dinosaurs, but I think they are. They walked upright, lived on land, had hip sockets with holes and enlarged bony rims around it's upper margin, and lived at the same time as certain dinosaurs. Maybe they aren't, but they are just as likely to be dinosaurs, as say, coelophysids, in my opinion. Who knows about teratosaurids?"

I know next to nothing about 'em. I'd really like to see a diagram of the dinosaur-like teratosaur hip you're talking about!
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


"The dinosaurs should be a in a class of their own, the "sauromimids" or something."

Or you could just call the new Class the Dinosauria, like everyone else who has suggested it. "Reptile mimics" doesn't really make any sense.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


"ACTUALLY, I thought that an IMPORTANT feature of coelurosauria (sorry for the earlier spelling mistake) is their very long forelimbs. Maybe tyrannosaurids are considered coelurosauria now, I accept that, but I don't see how someone can say that t rex has long arms. What happened
to the long arm thing????"

I'm not sure if its part of the current definition of Coelurosauria. Tyrannosaurids evolved from long-armed ancestors, so they should be included.

"Guy who said raptors are slow (WE THWARTED THAT ONE),"

I don't remember that. Slow compared to their Jurassic Park movie counterparts, probably yes.

"birds are considered MANIRAPTORA now so they can't be reptiles because YOU ALL AGREE THAT DINOSAURS AREN'T REPTILES!!!"

Well I think that dinosaurs (and birds) are reptiles.

"THE JURASSIC ENDED 136 million years ago. Not 60."

Most recent sources place the end of the Jurassic at 144-146 million years ago. I haven't seen the 136 date for a long time.

"Brad (cool name. It really rolls off your tongue. Brad. Brad.) - If ONLY acro, metria, beckles, and spino have their dentaries constricted behind their fourth tooth, then that can be evidence enough to have them in the same family. It suggests they evolved in the same family and my theory is wrong. More info please Brad."

The dentary is unknown in Metriacanthosaurus and Becklespinax. The dentary is _not_ constricted in Acrocanthosaurus. I don't see any reason to place these three in a family with Spinosaurus.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; October 27, 2001


HELLO???ANYONE HERE???
I bet you just have Saturday plans. So I'll talk to myself.

from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


one big post to save time here people...

ACTUALLY, I thought that an IMPORTANT feature of coelurosauria (sorry for the earlier spelling mistake) is their very long forelimbs. Maybe tyrannosaurids are considered coelurosauria now, I accept that, but I don't see how someone can say that t rex has long arms. What happened to the long arm thing????

Guy who said raptors are slow (WE THWARTED THAT ONE), birds are considered MANIRAPTORA now so they can't be reptiles because YOU ALL AGREE THAT DINOSAURS AREN'T REPTILES!!!

JC - What is "on&hellip"?

"also not I am allowing gracious blatant errors in my calculations" THE JURASSIC ENDED 136 million years ago. Not 60.

Brad (cool name. It really rolls off your tongue. Brad. Brad.) - If ONLY acro, metria, beckles, and spino have their dentaries constricted behind their fourth tooth, then that can be evidence enough to have them in the same family. It suggests they evolved in the same family and my theory is wrong. More info please Brad.

It feels good to know that I start most of the discussions here now. IF YOU WANT DEBATES THEN WHY DON'T YOU START SOME! IT CAN'T BE THAT HARD!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001
"hellip" is a so-called standard html tag, but isn't really standard (it doesn't work on my browser, for example). It's supposed to display an elipsis ( three dots). JC


OH I'M SOOOOO SORRY TO upset YOU T - REX FANS, BUT CARCHARADONTOSAURUS HAD A BIGGER, MORE MASSIVE SKULL, MORE POWERFULL JAWS, BLAGH BLAH BLAH. THERE ARE MORE DINOSAURS LIKE IT, TOO. T REX IS A GREAT PREDATOR BUT IT'S NOT that GOOD. THERE ARE MORE POWERFULL DINOS THAN REX, OK? T REX DOESN'T HAVE JAWS TWELVE TIMES MORE POWERFULL THAN THE NEXT MOST POWERFULL DINOSAUR! (Spinosaurus isn't one of them. But you people are so sad (yeah, ah, I'm only directing this at the people who where so evil in the vote ur fav dino forum) you only appreciate tyrannosaurs and you think ALL other dinosaurs are crap. Be ashamed.)
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


I reckon dinosaurs are the link between lizards and birds and belong in a class of their own. They branched off from reptiles, and birds branched off from them. The dinosaurs should be a in a class of their own, the "sauromimids" or something. Who reckons what?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"Here is a fairly HARD trivia question"! T - master - concerning your STEGTRIDRYOPROSAURUS (so easy, man!) you probably already know, and I know you can write what you like and I'm not criticising you, but I would like to bring to your attention that dinosaurs normally have informative names. Three horned face. Arm lizard. Alberta lizard. Before the ridged lizard. Etc. Roof three oak before lizard is a jumble of words.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


I think MICRORAPTOR is the smallest adult dino now. It was only 40cm long. Compsognathuses are thought to be about 60cm, and microceratopsians 60cm too, but bulkier. So the order is:
1) Microraptor
2) Compsognathus
3) Microceratops
Also, compsognathus is JURASSIC.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


I'm the latin expert. I only have to look up trivia questions of that sort in extreme cases. Also, you people have a large head start over me when it comes to up - to date dinosaur facts. But this sunday I'm using all my savings to buy a big fat load of up - to date dinosaur encyclopedia, and I'm really surfing the net for HOT dinosaur news so I'll be up to your standard very soon hopefully.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Who here knows about "TERATOSAURIDS?" Some paleontologists think they aren't dinosaurs, but I think they are. They walked upright, lived on land, had hip sockets with holes and enlarged bony rims around it's upper margin, and lived at the same time as certain dinosaurs. Maybe they aren't, but they are just as likely to be dinosaurs, as say, coelophysids, in my opinion. Who knows about teratosaurids?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


For people who can be bothered and aren't sick of trivia (T - master, I'd be looking in your direction if you were here…)

1) The dinosaur OPISTHOCOELICAUDIA, what kind of a dinosaur was it? What family? History? HERE'S the KICKER: What Does It's Name Mean!?! Hahahahahahahahahaha no - one'll ever answer that!!!!!!!!!
2) Name FOUR teratosaurids!
3) Name TWO things which EMBASAURUS and MACRODONTOPHION have in common with one another!
4) Name TWO dinosaurs which had two V shaped crests above their heads!!!!!!
5) What is the SMALLEST HYPSILOPHODONTID?!?
6) Hahahahahahahahaha no - one can laugh as loudly and EVILY as me! especially when I give out impossible trivia! That's why no - one likes it! HAHAHAHA! (This isn't a question.)
7) Name ALL the stages of the cretacious period in order!

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Should the trivia pause? I wanna answer and give out trivia, but some of us are getting bored. Who is prepared to answer trivia and who is not? 'Cos I got some real good trivia and so has T - master I can bet.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


If Acrocanthosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, and Becklespinax aren't spinosaurids, then what are they classified as now? And what happened to Altispinax? If it's only known from a tooth, then what could it be? I reckon if it was put as a spinosaurid because of it's tooth being elongated and straight, it should be kept a spinosaurid for the time being. Tim M, you better answer this. (cos U sed they wheren't spinosaurids in the first place. Or was it Brad? Whoever it is I wanna know and I wanna know now.)
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


CRUNCH was asking about dinosaurs bigger than ultrasaurOs (isn't it spelt like that? Why the hell?) and argentinosaurus. In Morocco, fossilised footprints have been found that suggest an animal (a sauropod) that was estimated to be 48m long. There's also a seismosaurus (approx. up to 40m,) giraffatitan (approx. up to 27m) and a sauropseidon (longest neck known, approx. up to 40m long, but the tallest.) Some DAMN big dinosaurs. I'll find some more stuff.

Here's some info on big dinosaurs I found on this very site:

Argentinosaurus huinculensis - 115-130 feet long (35-40? m); 80-100 metric tons

Paralititan 35-40 m) - 70 tonnes

Seismosaurus hallorum ("Earth-shaking lizard") - 120+ feet long (37 m); 30-80 tons

Supersaurus vivianae - 100-130 feet long (30-40 m); 45-55 metric tons

Ultrasauros - 100+ feet long (30 m), +80 tons (this may be a large Brachiosaurus)

Andesaurus delgadoi 130? feet (40 m)

Bruhathkayosaurus matleyi 130? feet (40 m?)

Argyrosaurus superbus 65-130? feet (20-40 m)

Giraffatitan brancai 75-100? feet (23-30 m)

Diplodocus - grew up to 90 feet long (28 m).

Brachiosaurus - about 85 feet long (26 m), 40 feet tall, and weighed 70-80 tons.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Everybody, read CARCHARADONTOSAUR'S story.
1) It is very good
2) It is obviously copied from "the lost world" by Michael Crichton. That's where he got all his ideas from. Well, not all, but a lot.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Hunter P - I read your story! It was cool and way FUNNY. But forests can't grow underground, trees need light to photosynthesize. But I guess you can write what you want as it's your story.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


NOOOO! Gianna - that is not a stupid argument. It is quite important in my opinion. But let's forget it; both sides will never give in. Also, about the dinosaurs you made up. OK, put some stuff up about them. It'll be interesting to see what kind of dinosaurs you've thought up.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


I just feel like typing.
So...what are you guys doing today? I have a Halloween carnival at my school, I'm SO THERE!!

If youre here, Tim M., read this. No insult.

I had a dream about you. You were a genius and you looked like a girl. wHAT A STUPID DREAM. you came to my school and you talked a lot. Not much about dinosaurs, though. Then you left.
I also had a dream about T.rex. It was stuck between two Plesiosaurs, though me and everyone else called them Placerias!!!!!!!
T.Rex was stuck because it couldn't get to its sleeping site.
Those were two wierd dreams.

from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


The chat room is mesozoic mumblings. I'll go on it and check it out. Then I'll tell you more about it and how to join the exact room we'll be in,etc. It'll be good. We'll find differences in poinion almost immediately, I think. It'll just be like this message board but MUCH faster! Like chatting on the phone with all other people. Come along and join if you want! Next saturday is THE day. If someone who wants to be part of it but can't make it, we'll arrange another time. Who knows, it might be so good It'll be regular! Everyone's welcome. And
Gianna,I think your parents shouldn't have much problem. If they don't mind the message board, I'm sure they won't mind the chat room. On the screen, It'll be like a place to type your text, and a big window in the middle where everything everyone has written is. I'll give you more details when I've checked it out. I'll check it today.

from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


"othys" is a short nickname for othneilia. I could no be bothered to write "othneilia" every time so I just wrote "othys."
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 27, 2001


Nobody forces anyone to like their dinosaur.
from Donovna c., age 12, ?, singapore, ?; October 27, 2001


"We don't have to like Allosaurus."

That was me talking....but now I like Allosaurus. I wrote this weeks ago when Sean the priest of the Rex Church was around. And I said I didn't have to like Allosaurus. Now I do. Wierd!!
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


That is a stupid argument.
from gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


I love dinosaurs so much I have made up a few of my own.
Tell me if you'd like to hear about them. (They are not dinosaurs that are better than T-Rex. One of them is related to T-Rex.)

from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Nice pictures, Tom G.
I like the Stegosaurus

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


I agree with Honkie Tong and Lt.-OS... Oh, nevermind...
But anyway, I think we should stop this argument.

from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Oops I by aciccedently pressed send on my last one, I've been meening to tell you that I would want to go to the chat room with you, but I don't think my computer has the right plug.
from T-master, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Alright. Where is a dino chat room?
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


I'm not exactly sure my parents would let me into a dino chat room.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Da Masta your story is pretty cool but what are "othys"
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Da Masta I'd like to go to a dinosaur chatroom
from Tom G, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Trivia master. Tim M. Brad. Honkie tong. Alpha male deinonychus. Utahraptor. Brock H. Donovan. Gianna. Anyone else with dino knowledge. If we all get on a dino chat room it will be kik(_|_) WICKED. Send me a message of interest. PleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePlease.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


A challenge Honkie. T REX may ave ad a BIG brain & long olfactory tracts forward pointing eyes BLAH BLEURH BLAAAH (I'm not immitating you or offending anyone talkative hopefully) but vision accuety based on movement is possible! Such simple eyes do exist. AND TYRANNOSAURUS HAD SMALL EYES. Possibly the most powerfull land predator of all time, that's a fact. I'll tell about existing "vision accuety based on movement" eyes. The NAUTILUS. It has hardly changed for 400 millio years.It has a single eye, without a lens, which operates like a very simple camera. Light enters the eye and allows the nautilus to detect movement but it cannot focus to see things distinctly.When it is too bright, the nautilus closes the opening so it is almost shut. I'm not saying T REX had eyes like that, or visual accuety based on movement, but we just don't know. It is possible. T REX had other excellent senses so perhaps it did not need vision so much. And stop complaining ! about trivia people. I don't think this is boring. Don't stop your trivia, T - master, because it is damn good. (but I won't ALWAYS answer it, I will when I can.) WHO THINKS WOT ABOUT MY STORY?
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


HELP! my info is outdated. PLEASE tell me about the dinodata and dinosauriscon things, and recommend some good dino encyclopedia(DO NOT IGNORE ME THIS TIME, IT'S JUST CRUEL.)

FOR YUR INFO I AM A bit OF AN ATTENTION SEEKER.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


Honkie tong - U know, the expanding earth theory is nowhere near as stupid as the piss flood theory (I apologise for the vulgarity on behalf of myself and Honkie Tong.) The urine would sink into the ground and get sucked up by plants, etc. The volume of water is not increasing, just going through a dinosaur and getting transferred to a different place.
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


I know what it's like to be ignored! all my non - contoversial questions never get answered! WHO WANTS TO GO ON A FLIPPIN' CHAT ROOM?! WHO WANTS TO GO ON A FLIPPIN' CHAT ROOM?! WHO WANTS TO GO ON A FLIPPIN' CHAT ROOM?! Who wants to go on an chaaaat room? WE CAN ARRANGE EVERYTHING, ALL I NEED TO KNOW IS THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED! IF U R NOT THEN POLITELY EXPLAIN!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


I never sed the earth is decreasibg in size! I must have mistyped! it is expanding! sorry 4 the error!
from da masta, age ?, ?, ?, ?; October 26, 2001


You see?No one listens to me.The t-rex is a 6 tonne killing machine or scavenger if any meat is left.
from Donovna c., age 12, ?, singapore, ?; October 26, 2001


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