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Dino Talk: A Dinosaur Forum

Late March 2001

i am not sure if dinos got extinct due to an impact by a meteorite.
as according to chaos theory it could be due to behavioral changes- ie dinos comming to the edge of chaos. i mean there are 5 million species of living things on earth but 5 billion are known to have exsisted. that means 99.9% of all living things that ever exsisted are extinct. a meteorite cann't cause this. it has to be more. may be dinos could not evolve their behavior...

from shivangi g, age 14, ?, ?, india; March 31, 2001

I guess so, although Carcharodontosaurus preyed on large animals and Spinosaurus preyed on mainly small. I meant that they had no competition in their hunting niche.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 31, 2001

Couldn't Carcharodontosaurus be "king" of Spinosaurus' habitat?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 31, 2001


Well, actually this message board appears to be oriented upside-down-ish, so having that warning on the top doesn't help much. Anyway...

Argh! I couldn't freakin' believe it when I found out that a *SPINOSAURUS* appears as a ferocious butt-kicking beastie in "JP3". I always figured it was some kind of desert scavenger.


That's more like it.
from La Gremlin, age 23, Boston, MA, ?; March 31, 2001

The smallest known dinosaur isn't Micropachycephalosaurus, it's Microraptor.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 31, 2001

I think maybe a large Giganotosaurus could beat a Tyrannosaurus rex, and that's about it. But they never met in person, so both were "kings" of their habitat. _Spinosaurus_ was as well. I doubt that a fight would ensue even if they met, since both would risk great injury or death from fighting the other one.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 31, 2001

Yeah, I've heard the spoilers about Spinosaurus beating a T.Rex and I'd can't help but think what this is based on. This seems to go against all we know about Spinosaurus and Tyrannosaurus (but then again, how much do the movie makers really know?) Anyway, I found a nice little question and answer thingie from this "expert" on dinosaur wars! (And yes, Spinosaurus included)]

Spudhead K. from Afton OK

1) Do you think a Gigantosaurus could beat a T-rex?
2) Could a Spinosaurus beat it?
3) Have you seen the Dinosaur movie?
4) If you have, did you like it? I LOVE it!
5) My fave dino meat-eater is Spinosaurus, what's yours?
6) My fave plant eater is Pachycephalosaurus, what's yours?
7) What is the smallest dinosaur?

Thanksalotosaurus (

Hi Spuster, how have you been?
Here are your answers.
1) No, T-rex was much heavier built and more deadly.
2) No, Spinosaurus was a very light built dino who was no match for a rex.
3) Yes I saw it and liked it a bunch.
4) I loved it too.
5) Allosaurus is my favorite meat eater.
6) Euoplocephalus is my favorite plant eater.
7) The smallest dinosaur known is Micropachycephalosaurus.
You are welcomasaurus!!!!!!
Sincerely, George "The Dinosaur Man".

from Leonard, age 13, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

Argh! JP3 has made a completely mockery out the hard work of our dedicated and hardworking paleontologists around the globe! Boycott JP3! Juz kidding, but I cringe at the number of misconceptions that are going to be risen by the show...
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

Dang! I'd like to see a Pteranodon kill a person! Despite their intamidating size, Pteranodon was exceedingly light and fragile, certainly no match for a human (who by ther way, has very little natural defenses) well...this is what happens when the people who make the movies want movie-monsters, not real wild animals.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

Cearadactylus worked fine in the novel. Besides Pteranodon and Quetzalcoatlus (are they in the same family?), I can't remember any other pterosaurs being toothless.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001 don't read it if you don't want to know stuff about JP///. um, okay..
I don't think a Pteranodon would attack a person anyways...they seem to be carrion and fish-eaters, since they have no teeth they probably wouldn't be able to eat a person unless they were dead and decaying. I don't think there are any really big pterosaurs that they could have used instead (that had teeth and would attack people). Oh well, its just a movie. Supposedly (spoilers again) the Spinosaurus kills a T. rex. Another unlikelihood...

from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

Dino is probably an Anchisaurus or small sauropodomorph-like thing. It really isn't even a's just some thing the cartoon companies made up to confuse the public about dinosaurs even more and make them think that people, mammoths, AND dinosaurs lived together!
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

What was Dino? I'm thinking Anchisaurus.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

I wanna watch the French JP! All we get to watch in French class is "Beauty and the Beast" and "Clueless" (don't ask). It's scary, ugh. And the big Hornsly looks better than the little one...aww, what a cute little thing.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

Ross: If Dino was a Velociraptor, he would have eaten the Flintstones!

from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 30, 2001

Just as I predicted, Ty announced a larger, fuzzier version of Hornsley.

I'm not judging this one by the picture. It looks like this one might have the right number of toes, though.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

Product: Hornsly the Triceratops
Type: Beanie Baby
Manufacturer: Ty Inc.

beanie baby Triceratops Description: Hornsly is about ten inches long, and is lightly stuffed with plastic pellets. His head contains a more standard polyester fiber stuffing. The beanie fillign makes him quite poseable, which is nice. The main fabric used on the body is soft, but also slighlty bumpy. It is blue with raised blue-green scales. Very well done. While there are little shiny bits on the horns and frill, they are very subtle and do not detract from the appearance of the toy. The horns do not curve inwards, as they did in the picture. They basically point dtraight up, which is fine. The frill is pretty poseable, and doesn't have to look as bad as in the picture either. Hornsly's eyes are not the same a Swoop's, they are actually quite a bit larger. Since this is a baby dinosaur, I'll accept it. Hornsly's head is about a quarter of his total length.

Scientific Accuracy: Fairly good. There are some minor errors- horns too far back in relation to eye, and lack of beak, but it does look like a Triceratops! It's not all that chameleony in reality. I'm happy with what Ty did with this one. :)

Pros: Really neat fabric, poseable, better than I expected, potential collectible.

Cons: Weird beakless mouth doesn't close! I still absolutelty hate the poem :(

Reccommended. Possibly just as cool as Swoop. For a beanbag, it's a fairly good representation of Triceratops.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

In Jurassic Park ///, one scene is said to include a Pteranodon picking up a character and carrying him away. That is just so stupid! A Pteranodon weighed 40 pounds!

from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

I've never heard of _Lost in Dino World_. Coelophysis lived about 220-210 million years ago. There is no evidence for or against feathers. Did anything else happen in the book? A girl seeing a sculpture and using a chatroom isn't much of a story.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

We watched the French edition of Jurassic Park at school today. And strangely, it wasn't the first time I had seen it. They had to speak extremely quickly at times to match the length of the English lines. It was hard to hear what they were saying, but I know most of the lines in that movie anyway.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

I saw a bit of Friends last night, where Ross' student pretended to be in love with him to get a higher grade- right episode? I missed that line, though. Doesn't seem like a big loss. I love the paleontologist jokes on Friends. How did it go again?

Rachel: What would a paleontologist's girlfriend wear?
Pheobe: I don't know-- I think you're the first one.

Ha! Love it! What else did they say?

"You're a paleontologist, dig deeper!"

Rachel (to Ross): You know that thing that's been dead for milions of years? Well, here's a little bone we didn't know it had!

Something like that. There were other good ones too, I'll have to find a Friends website with scripts on it.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 30, 2001

I have a book called "Lost in Dino World" and in this book it talks about a girl named Brooke who stumbles across a life-sized model of a Coelophysis which has green feathers on it. She talks to her friends on a chat room called Dino World. She asked them if this dino really had feathers. They said unlikely. I want to know if it did have feathers, when it lived, and have scientists proven that it did or did not have feathers.
from Chris H., age 13, Summerville, South Carolina, United States of America; March 30, 2001

I also doubt that Deinocheirus was a Thezinosaur. I was just speculating. I know that French isn't all that useful (because only a few countries have it as a national language), but it's better than nothing. I am in sixth grade, Brad.
from Russell P, age ?, Seattle, WA, USA; March 30, 2001

I would like to learn more about the saber tooth tiger, whoolly mammoth, and cave men.
from Alex D., age 7 years, MIramar, Florida, USA; March 30, 2001

Okay, this is my first time posting here (and I'm not sure it'll be the last, cause this site rocks ^_^).

Now if anyone was watching "Friends" tonight, they had one doozy of a biological error regarding Velociraptors. Ross describes the animal as having some kind of extendable "neck frill" (I guess the writers were thinking of the Bizzaro-world mutant Dilophosaur in "Jurassic Park" [and don't get me wrong, I love that movie]).

Now was a new 'raptor found with a neck frill or is Ross full of it? (And don't worry, I don't take "Friends" seriously at all, this just set me off a bit.)
from La Gremlin, age 23, Boston, MA, ?; March 29, 2001

I think French is an interesting class, probably because it's the only class I'm almost guaranteed an "A" in besides Ceramics..
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

So ve iz speakion de french here are we notz? Zo ve do not mind if I speak my native tounge her? Wo sian zia yao wu rou ni men, ni men bu yao xiao wo. Ne men shi huen dan!
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

Iowa was under the Niobrara Sea during the Mesozoic I think, so there aren't very good dinosaur fossils from there..
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

DW said in French: "Avoir!"
I think you meant, "Au revoir" because "avoir" means "to have," hehe. Oh well, close enough!

from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

Dinosaur in French is "le dinosaure." Or is it a feminine word? I'm not sure of the gender, but the actual word is "dinosaure."
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

I wasn't meaning to be a fan of school shootings or Holocausts, Honkie, I hope you didn't interpret me that way...I was just saying that human beings are capable of so much more than evil, even if they do horrible, horrible things. Like Anne Frank said, "all people are basically good." And she was even a victim of the Holocaust. Now, off of that topic...
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

The only thing I know about WWII is that a Spinosaurus got destroyed. I'm not really interested in war history, I'd rather learn about science history. French isn't really that useful, but there are some fun assignments. I've been stuck with the same second language since first grade. What grade are you in, Russell?

I doubt Deinocheirus is a therizinosaur. If it was, I think it would have been recognized as one a long time ago. Would scientists really overlook such an obvious solution if there was not evidence against it?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 29, 2001

do you know what?
I like dinosaurs!
How about you?
You like dinodaurs

from brittany gray, age 8, PFlugerville, ?, United States; March 29, 2001

Yes, I definately think Adolf Hitler could be labeled as "monster". Throw in Josef Stalin as well. I wouldn't exactly calll myself a fan of Hitler, although I know a lot about and like WWII (thank you World War 2 magazine).

I don't get very exciting science classes, either. We are now studying enviornmental science, which is okay. Brad, you are lucky you get to study a foreign language! I studied French for a few years at a couple different schools. I'm not very good at French :( Than I moved to a different school and we got to study Latin, which is really easy for me :) Now I am at a different school again, and next year we have to study Spanish (a lot like french).

Deinocheirus as an Oviraptosaur seems like a neat idea, and is definitely possible. Maybe it's a Thezinosaur or something. Theres no way of being sure until more bones are found.
from Russell P, age ?, seattle, wa, usa; March 28, 2001

Bonjour mes amis! Je parle français aussi. Qu'est-ce que Dinosaur en français? *SIGH* Je suis désoler, je dois sortir. Avoir!
from DW, age 14, Singapore, ?, ?; March 29, 2001

Lisa said:
"What kinds of sounds did dinosaurs make?"

It isn't known for certain, but go to this site to hear what they might have sounded like:

"What colours were they?"

This is entirely unknown. You can read some of our suggestions here on dinotalk, about two thirds of the way down on the current page.

"Dinosaurs mean terrible lizerd. The king of all dinosaurs were the Triasaures Rex. It was a meat eater. It walked on two

Actually, it more accurately translates to "Fearfully Great Reptile". I personally don't think dinosaurs had a king in they way you describe it. There would defiantely be dominant individuals in a herd, but dinosaurs wouldn't have a leader on that scale.

"Dinosaurs were reptiles, like crocadiles or lizers. Some think the ones that felow in the sky were not dinosaurs. But I do."

It isn't uncommon for dinosaurs to fly- there are many living examples that can. If you are referrign to Pterosaurs, they could be dinosaurs. Are they descendants of the most recent common ancestor of Iguanodon and Megalosaurus? The Middle Triassic fossil record doesn't show exactly how various dinosaur groups evolved.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 28, 2001

My class was also taught that King Kong and Godzilla were monsters. I don't consider Godzilla an evil character. When he gets destructive its for a reason, and for most of the more obscure Japanese sequels, he's the hero of the movie who saves the earth from the evil monsters. In the 1998 remake, Godzilla was driven by the instinct to reproduce. Has anyone seen "Godzilla 2000"? I think that's a real movie, I vaguely remember the preview. Glad to see they went back to the old Godzilla, that redesigned iguana-like one just didn't work.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 28, 2001

I can't name any Iowa dinosaurs from memory. I don't think any have been found there yet.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 28, 2001

Jennifer, what subject was your dinosaur report for? An Ontario science class would never teach something as cool as dinosaurs, we learn boring things like mitosis and electricity. English classes actually assign essay topics, or give very limited choices based on the assigned novels. I admire your school for giving you some freedom in your research. I agree that Ornithomimus is cool. If you want, you can include my illustration of it.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 28, 2001

Hmm...ok, how about Hitiler? Can we lable him a monster? Does anybody have a problem with that? Ok, I hope we don't have any of his fans over here....
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 28, 2001

Yesterday our 8th grade class started doing a report over whatever dinosaur we wanted. I looked in the encycolpedia in the Library and I thought that the Ornithomimus looked like it would be pretty interesting. So i decided to do my report on it. I'ts a pretty cool dino. This Friday our Jr. High is going on a field trip to Hays Kansas, to see a replica of Sue, i guess that will be a interesting trip!! Well, I better get going now, byebye
from Jennifer K., age 14, Woodbine, Kansas, USA; March 28, 2001

Did dinosaurs ever live in Iowa? If so who were they?
from JOSH Z, age 7, Fort Dodge, Iowa, U.S.A.; March 28, 2001

Well, it depends how you define "monster." I think Honkie is right in the fact that dinosaurs aren't monsters because they aren't mythical and are just trying to live/survive, not cause trouble and be evil. For monsters, I guess their only point in existence is evil, and that's all they do for the world. Dinosaurs definitely weren't monsters according to that definition. Parlez-vous français aussi?
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 28, 2001

What school shooting were you referring to, Honkie? If it was Columbine, I live right near there (same state, same county). The responses from people around here seem to reflect that calling them "monsters" is the easy way out. I'm not advocating at all what they did, they made a big mistake and sorta deserve that label. But the term "monster" is too strong to put on another human being right away.
In happier news, I think the arboreal dinosaur is from China, where everything is coming from recently, which is kinda odd..

from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 28, 2001

What kinds of sounds did dinosaurs make? What colours were they? Dinosaurs mean terrible lizerd. The king of all dinosaurs were the Triasaures Rex. It was a meat eater. It walked on two legs. Dinosaurs were reptiles, like crocadiles or lizers. Some think the ones that felow in the sky were not dinosaurs. But I do.
from Lisa, age 9, ?, ?, canada; March 28, 2001

Yes, but we were talking about the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park being monsters. In my opinion, they were fictional animals. What kind of real raptor would have looked like that?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 28, 2001

I don't think you can really define dinosaurs as monsters, as "monster" is usually used to describe fictional of mythtical creatures. I don't know if you know this, but I consider the two racist, hate-filled teenagers who sprayed their students and teachers with automatic gunfire monsters.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 27, 2001

Yeah, really giant dinosaurs can take a decade to become formally recognized :(

The new aboreal dinosaur sounds interesting. Where's it from?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 27, 2001

I want descriptions of the new giant dinosaurs from Argentina, but that won't be for at least a couple of years...I'm also awaiting the new dinosaur similar to Microraptor that is being described by Czerkas...I don't know the name but allegedly it is very small, arboreal, and had a very long middle finger.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 27, 2001

Believie it or not, we actually had a discussion in my French class today about whether or not the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were "monsters". Some people said they were not monsters because they were part of nature, just another sort of reptile. Some said they were monsters, because they were big and feirce, and they ate people. Unfortunately, we had to discuss the topic in French, which was somewhat limiting.

What makes a monster? I don't think we can really define monsters scientifically, it would just be an opinion. Were the animals in Jurassic Park even dinosaurs? I say they were not. It is obvious thast they contain DNA from various other sources, including very remotely related animals like frogs (1), which altered their appearance and behaviour. They are new life forms created by the JP scientists, and never occurred naturally. Gotta go now, the Dinosaur Hater wants to chat with her friends.

(1) Mammals are more closely related to dinosaurs then frogs. Look at a vertebrate cladogram, its true.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 27, 2001

I've voiced opinions on _Deinochirus_ before, but I don't recall saying anything else about possible ornithomimosaurs. The Dinosauricon does call Deinocheirus and ornithomimosaur, but I still disagree and speculate that it may have been an oviraptorosaur. The robot and fossil dinosaur show that travelled around the globe last year featured a model of a giant oviraptorosaur egg that seemed to come from a Deinocheirus-sized animal, and that's what it likely was. I think this egg may have been featured in National Geographic in 1996. The address for the Dinosauricon is simply
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 27, 2001

Or perhaps, found early and described late. It's still too snowy here for paleontological fieldwork, but new dinosaurs rarely come from Canada. Most dinosaurs we'll meet later this year have already been discovered, it just takes time to prepare and study them to determine exactly what they were like. I think Bienosaurus (sp?) chrichtoni is still unofficial, but will probably be published soon. And there are some older dinosaurs in desperate need of proper descriptions- there's a whole bunch of nomina nuda from Asia that we could probably learn a lot form.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 27, 2001

Brad,right after I sent the other 2 messages, I looked at old pages, and in one of your messages you stated your ideas on Ornithomimosauria classification, to find out for sure, I would check the dinosauricon, I am not sure of the adress.
from Robert S., age 10, Lawerenceville, G.A., U.S.A.; March 26, 2001

Brad,like my best friend (who has earned the nickname "the smartest kid in fourth grade" according to me) you're always right,they usally do get found late.
from Robert S,, age 10, Lawerenceville, G.A., U.S.A.; March 26, 2001

Hello!!!!! There is Not much to say, but wouldn't you know it,once you finally get used to one largest carnivore, one more comes along and beats the rest (2000 Allosaurid from Argentina, not Giganotosaurus).
from Robert S., age 10, Lawerenceville, G.A., United States of America; March 26, 2001

I'm a bit bored now. It's defiantely a slow season for Dino Talk. I bet when JP/// comes out, we'll all be posting 15 times a day. Last year, most new dinosaurs were announced in the later half of the year. Is it always that way?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 25, 2001

Some dinosaurs may have eaten branches, or more commonly leaves from branches. Most of the dinosaurs that could reach branches wouldn't eat them (their jaws weren't built for eating wooden sticks).
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 23, 2001

Dinosaurs lived for 30 geologic ages, each lasting several million years, so they lived for a very long time. And even after they started to decline, they lasted for like 2 million years before they finally died out. There is even evidence that some of them lived into the Cenozoic Era, and they even live on today (as birds). So they didn't die out quickly.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 23, 2001

Did any dinosaurs eat any branches
from Naomi R., age 8, Elizabeth, N.J., United Staets; March 23, 2001

Short Answer: The didn't die quickly.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 23, 2001

I don't think there were in the Edmontosaurus mummy, but it is probably very likely that they did eat their youngs' feces...
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 23, 2001

from ASHLEY G:), age 13, GAFFNEY, SOUTH CAROLINA, AMERICA; March 23, 2001

What's so confusing about this question? I doubt we even have to guess to far to find a probabble answer. Hoe do modern nesting birds avoid such a problem? I think it was never a big problem to start with.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 23, 2001

Maybe someone should take a really close look at that anatosaur mummy's stomach contents to see if there are any coprolites among them....
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 22, 2001

That's a very interesting thought, David. What I would think is that there would be a layer of leaves in the nest. When this got too dirty with various waste, the mother (or father) would put a new layer of leaves, moss, etc in the nest and discard the old layer.
from Russell p, age ?, seattle, wa, usa; March 22, 2001

Hi my name is kim i like all dinosaurs they are fun to learn
from Kim S, age 17, new york, new york, usa; March 22, 2001

Whass _ Up
from Jamie L, age 11, Miamisburg, Ohio, U.S.A; March 22, 2001

Do dino mothers eat their youngs' feces (poop)? If they didn't then what would happen to the nest? Wouldn't it surely fill up with enough poo that the young and mother would have to change nests every so whatever? Or, like modern animals, would the mothers eat it?
from david l, age 14, Peace River, Alberta, Canada; March 21, 2001

So far the all time dino in my book would be the "THERIZINOSAURUS"!
from Stephen K., age 13, Lansford, Pennsylvania, N. America; March 21, 2001

from Simi J., age 9, Mesquite, Texas, U.S.A.; March 21, 2001

from matt G, age 8, oconto Falls, WI, United STATS; March 20, 2001

My favorite dino is the triceratops because it is my dino for my book report .i learned a lot on it mostly from zoom dinos .thats why!
from Jayme, age 12, ?, ?, ?; March 19, 2001

wher have petrified fossils been found in the us
locate on a map

from Antwain j, age 14, opa locka, fla, united staes; March 19, 2001

We love your site
from Quiana and Sam, age 12, fremont, california, tarazan; March 19, 2001

hi are name is tyler & spencer we love dinosaurs!!!bye
from tyler & spencer, age 8, hutchinson, k.s, America; March 19, 2001

I will come back to Mesozoic Techno-zoic soon.
from Reuben B., age 8, Needham, MA, USA; March 19, 2001

I have Known
from Riley M., age 8, Abilene, Kansas, US; March 19, 2001

At a long delayed last, the next Old Blood is coming out really soon.
from Billy Macdraw, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 18, 2001

My little experiment worked- the phrase 'prehistoric animals' is used so often to exclude dinosaurs (ie, books titled "Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Animals") that Russell's suggestions were not dinosaurs!

I do have plans for a Dimetrodon, (I can picture it perfectly!) but I need to pick up another copy of the Red Planet Cruiser to get some more of the part I need in that new grey-green. I'm not sure what parts I need for an Elasmosaurus, but I'll keep looking for parts in my bucket/floor/boxes that say "this is part of a plesiosaur!"
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 18, 2001

Is voting over?
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 18, 2001

Reuben, I'm sorry to say this, but your "Dino News" is wrong about the fanfic page. There were two short works additions yesterday.
from JOE BOB B., age 10, Menlo Park, ?, ?; March 18, 2001

Dino News
March 18

The results are:
Abelisaurus 2
Acanthopholis 1
Acrocanthosaurus 13
Adasaurus 2
Afrovenator 2
Alamosaurus 11
Albertosaurus (=Gorgosaurus) 15
Alectrosaurus 1
Altispinax 1
Alioramus 2
Allosaurus 122
Alvarezsaurus 2
Amargasaurus 4
Amphicoelias 2
Amygdalodon 1
Anatosaurus 4
Anatotitan 4
Anchiceratops 1
Anchisaurus 1
Ankylosaurus 157
Apatosaurus (= Brontosaurus, Long-neck) 406
Aragosaurus 1
Achillobator 1
Argentinosaurus 4
Arkansaurus 1
Atlascopcosaurus 1
Austrosaurus 1
Avipes 1
Avipes 1
Azendohsaurus 1
Bactrosaurus 1
Bambiraptor 3
Barosaurus 8
Baryonyx 19
Becklespinax 1
Blikanasaurus 1
Brachiosaurus 207
Brachyceratops 1
Byronosaurus 1
Camarasaurus 2
Camptosaurus 3
Carcharodontosaurus 16
Carnotaurus 18
Cedarosaurus 1
Centrosaurus 2
Ceratosaurus 11
Chasmosaurus 8
Charonosaurus 2
Chilantaisaurus 1
Chirostenotes 3
Coelophysis 19
Coelurosaurs 1
Coelurus 2
Compsognathus 67
Corythosaurus 15
Cryolophosaurus 4
Daspletosaurus 2
Deinocherius 3
Deinonychus 87
Deltadromeus 3
Dicraeosaurus 1
Dilophosaurus 37
Diplodocus 102
Dromaeosaurus 6
Dryosaurus 3
Dryptosaurus 5
Duckbills (Hadrosaurs) 29
Edmontosaurus (=Anatosaurus) 7
Edmarka 1
Elaphrosaurus 1
Eoraptor 6
Epanterias 1
Eubrontes 1
Euhelopus 2
Euoplocephalus 7
Euoparkeria 1
Eustreptospondylus 4
Fabrosaurus 3
Gallimimus 22
Gasosaurus 2
Gastonia 2
Giganotosaurus 72
Gorgosaurus 2
Grallator 2
Gryposaurus 4
Hadrosaurus 3
Haplocanthosaurus 1
Herrerasaurus 5
Heterodontosaurus 3
Homalocephale 4
Hypacrosaurus 1
Hypselosaurus 2
Hypsilophodon 8
Iguanodon 62
Indosuchus 1
Irritator 4
Janenschia 1
Jaxartosaurus 1
Jobaria 6
Kakuru 2
Kentrosaurus 6
Koparion 3
Lambeosaurus 6
Leallynasaura 9
Leptoceratops 1
Lesothosaurus 2
Liliensternus 2
Lufengosaurus 1
Maiasaura 43
Majungatholus 2
Malawisaurus 2
Maleevosaurus 1
Massospondylus 1
Mamenchisaurus 4
Megaraptor 50
Metriacanthosaurus 2
Micropachycephalosaurus 2
Microceratops 2
Microcoelus 1
Microraptor 3
Microcrodontosaurus 1
Microvenator 4
Minmi 12
Monoclonius 2
Monolophosaurus = Jiangjunmiaosaurus 3
Mussaurus 2
Muttaburrasaurus 9
Mymoorapelta 1
Nanosaurus 1
Nanotyrannus 2
Nipponosaurus 1
Noasaurus 1
Nodosaurus 1
Notoceratops 3
Nqwebasaurus 1
Opisthocoelicaudia 1
Ornithocheirus 2
Ornitholestes 4
Ornithomimus 16
Orodromeus 1
Othnielia 1
Ouranosaurus 8
Oviraptor 21
Ozraptor 2
Pachycephalosaurus 48
Pachyrhinosaurus 25
Palaeoscincus 3
Parasaurolophus 95
Parrosaurus 1
Pelecanimimus 1
Pentaceratops 9
Piatnitzkysaurus 1
Plateosaurus 11
Pleurocoelus 1
Poekilopleuron 1
Polacanthus 4
Polyonyax 1
Procompsognathus 3
Protoavis 2
Protoceratops 33
Psittacosaurus 5
"raptors" (= Dromaeosaurids =Deinonychosaurs) 182
Rhoetosaurus 1
Rileyasuchus 1
Rioarribasaurus 1
Riojasaurus 1
Saltasaurus 6
Sauroposeidon 2
Seismosaurus 13
Shunosaurus 3
Sinornithosaurus 13
Spinosaurus 22
Staurikosaurus 2
Stegoceras 2
Stegosaurus 353
Stenonychosaurus 1
Struthiomimus 3
Stygimolich 3
Styracosaurus 21
Suchomimus 7
Supersaurus 25
Tanius 1
Tarbosaurus 5
Tenontosaurus 1
Therizinosaurus 4
Thescelosaurus 1
Titanosaurus 1
Torosaurus 8
Torvosaurus 1
Trachodon 13
Triceratops 603
Trimucrodon 1
Troödon (=Stenonychosaurus) 56
Tsintaosaurus 2
Tuojiangosaurus 1
Tyrannosaurus rex 3,674
Ultrasauros 25
Unenlagia 2
Utahraptor 124
Variraptor 4
Velociraptor 594
Vulcanodon 1
Wannanosaurus 1
Wuerhosaurus 2
Xenotarsosaurus 1
Yandusaurus 1
Yangchuanosaurus 5
Zanclodon 4
Zapsalis 1
Zatomus 1
Zephyrosaurus 2
Zuniceratops 2
Zigongosaurus 3

Tonight at 8:00, the Discovery chanel documentary Neanderthal makes it's world premere. It is about the survival skills of the neanderthal. Before that, Land of the mamoth aires again.

Stll no News!

Dino Talk: Not so Active!
The Dino Talk page has high hopes in returning to the golden age again with Billy Macdraw coming back. His personality and stories atracted Honkie and then everyone else.

No science page!

No stories!

Brad has made a good mammoth model out of LEGO.

from Reuben B., age 7, Needham, MA, USA; March 18, 2001

Yeah Brad, I kinda figured she couldn't have given birth to you at the age of 15.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 18, 2001

Does anyone here have information on the new dnosaur footprints in China?(I saw it on the news) It looks very interesting. *SIGH* My 1 week of vacation is over... Time to greet the textbooks...

Brad, get the Lego Mindstorms set and your Mammoth will really pick up after you! The only problem with it is that the motors aren't really powerful, but otherwise it rocks!
from DW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 18, 2001

Brad, two ideas of prehistoric animals that would be neat in legos are Elasmosaurus and Dimetrodon.
from Russell p, age ?, seattle, wa, usa; March 17, 2001

I want some ideas of prehistoric animals that I should make with LEGO. What did you think of the red mammoth? I still have the 'raptor I built, and I'll post a photo of it soon.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 17, 2001

"Weird" wasn't a good way to put it. I meant more specialized. Amaragasaurus is actually very close to Dicraeosaurus, it just had large spine-like things along it's back. Yes, Carnotaurus and Irritator are rather not fitting of this theory. Gigantosaurus was close to a basic Allosaur design, it was just really big. The Titanosaurs are pretty much the same as any others, Argentinosaurus just grew really big. The dinosaurs in South America didn't go through as much evolution as dinosaurs elsewhere, and other kinds of dinos (Ornithopods, Ceratopsians, ankylosaurs, etc) didn't really get a foothold in S. America. The only ornithopod dinosaurs I'm aware of that lived in South America during the Cretaceous are Gasparinisaura and Kritosaurus. Okay, I don't entirely support this theory, but I do agree with parts of it.
from Russell p, age ?, seattle, wa, usa; March 17, 2001

Actually South American dinosaurs seem more "specialized" (in quotations because it is such a tenuous term) than North American ones. Probably because South America remained cut off from the rest of the world during the Cretaceous, and many dinosaurs evolved bizarre forms there. Carnotaurus and Amargasaurus are good examples, as are the giant sauropods and carcharodontosaurines and lack of ornithopods in South America. Irritator, too.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; March 16, 2001

Yes, my mom actually wrote that. I saw her write it. And if you're wondering, "29+" is 45.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 16, 2001

I don't think there were weird dinosaurs. Dinosaurs always became specialized for a reason. We may not know the reason every time, but 'to be weird' wasn't it. And if you think that South American dinosaurs were less specilized, you're forgetting some. Carnotaurus? Amargasaurus? Every continent has its share of interesting-looking dinos, but they certainly wouldn't be weird if we understood them better.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 16, 2001

Who read Dino News?
from Reuben B., age 8, Needham, MA, USA; March 16, 2001

I will keep making posts on the science bord I know are not true until we come back to it!
from Reuben B., age 7, Needham, MA, USA; March 16, 2001

I had plenty of resources to know that it was Saurolophus Angustirostris, i was just too lazy :( to look it up. I have been recently been looking through some National Geographic articles about dinosaurs. One, about Patagonian dinosaurs. The paleontologist that was interviewed for this, Rodolfo Coria, had a very interesting theory. He said that South American dinosaurs are "normal" while dinosaurs from N. America and Asia are "weird". He means that the largely Orithithscian dinosaurs from Asia and North America are more specialized than the mainly Saurichian and more primative dinosaurs from South America. I am behind this theory, I support it. What do you guys think?
from Russell p, age ?, seattle, wa, usa; March 16, 2001

I think that Brad's mammoth rules! The next trick for him to accomplish is to train the mammoth to pick up the lego he leaves in
every room of the house. Are there any mammoth trainers out there?

from Brad's Mommy, age 29+, kitchen, house, canada; March 16, 2001

I have a digital camera now. Look in the dino pictures section a little later to see a picture I took with it.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 16, 2001

I think I know why the science board hardly ever gets any messages. Most large scientific discussions we've had here actually started out as little thoughts and observations here that probably didn't belong on the science talk page- but some of the replies did. I think science talk was a step in the wrong direction. Dino Talk is supposed to be a discussion of dinosaurs too, and in peaceful times it is. When the sciuence forum opended, Dino Talk got all off-topic. Don't delete the messages on the science forum, but I wouldn't be upset if they were just moved into this one (not at the top, please! In the archives!)
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; March 16, 2001

Well, hey guys, I'm back with my new computer, a kick-butt 800mhz P4 comp. Anyway, yeah, it was a good thing I got that hunk of junk replaced. As for the stories, I will be contuining them shortly, after I upload them back to my computer from my Zipdrive. Cya soon!
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; March 16, 2001

Stegosaurus is an excellent design. This was proven recently by Robot Wars, a game show where teams build RC robots and pitted them against each other. A robot called Stegosaurus, based on the design of the animal, totally outperformed and breezeed through it's opponents, how's that for design excellence?
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; March 16, 2001

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