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Dino Talk: A Dinosaur Forum

Hello robi
from robi, age 85, New York, Lichtenstein, Australien; November 15, 2000

Hy!Could you give me some information about dinosaurs .
from dino, age 43, Wels, Oberösterreich, Österreich; November 15, 2000

Hmmm, sounds like the books written by Robert Bakker. I noticed one of the paleontologist in the Lost world looked liked Robert Bakker (the one who got eaten up by the rex). Was that delebrate? Did Steven have a fallout with Bakker over the behaviour of dinosaurs? (In the first JP movie, Bakker with Steven argued that T.rex could detect non-moving prey, and he was proven right later).

Anyway, did Tarbosaurus meet Velociraptor?
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Here are some tips to avoid poorly written books:

1) A "Ph.D." after the author's name means nothing. Some dinosaur books have been written by doctors of literature and other non-sciences, not doctors of dinosaur paleontology.

2) The book will use outdated names such as "Trachodon," "Brontosaurus," "thecodont," "Anatosaurus," and the older Linnaean System of classification.

3) The ASTEROID THEORY of dinosaur extinction is stated to be solved and finished.

4) The book cites only recent work in the popular press and other popular books.

5) Contrary ideas are ignored, dismissed or disparaged, while the author tries only to sell his own ideas.

6) Dinosaurs are portrayed as ALL "warm-blooded," just like modern mammals
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Cool brad, I wonder how much damage Venomwing can do with a lifespan of only two weeks?
from Butterfly ExPeRt, age 10, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Sorry guys, but Old Blood is coming in at a slower rate. I have to finish my exams first you see. But what the hell... Watch for the next Old Blood!
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

No problem Brad, as long as you don't think Thintelligently, you should be okay.
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Brad, the locker on the space ship should be about big enough to hold about a ton a day. Rexes don't need nearly that much, as everyone has made clear to me. But, in space, you can get lost or cut off easily, so you want about twice as mcuh as they need.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Compy with machine gun? This is insanity! A M-60 GPMG masses 8.6 kilos while a compy only weights about 4 kilos! Not to mention a M-103A4 flamethrower?(mass 9 kilos) The compy will be crushed.(I don't think these guys can lift more than their own weight.)
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Excuse me? Did anybody call me fat? Well I will be frank, I only eat 30 tons of pure meat a year, or 100 kilos a day. To do so, I would have to kill a Triceratops at least once in two months.
from Tyrannosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

No problem. Meanwhile, my story is getting less accurate every day.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 15, 2000

Cool idea, but Tinker has a M1A2 Abrams tank, so the compy is at a serious disadvantage. Whoever said JP was realistic? I don't really think that terrestral croc could seriously threaten a Plateosaurus though.
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

I have a request for the next dino wars. Put sue and suzie against one compy. A compy armed with machine guns and flamethrowers. I am almost finished with my triassic story but need more ideas. Thanks for any help.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Billy, trust me, the last thing I am is mad. Before this is entirely closed, I want to bring up an interesting point. ? said that JP would have the answer. I dasagree. One rex, in two days, ate the following: 200 pound raptor, 185 pound lawyer, 165 gallimimus. And you say my rexes eat a lot. Also, brad, a appreciate you think my writing is somewhat accurate.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

Manospondylus gigas? T.Rexes' first name? Don't change it!
from Lilian T., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

All right! Tyrannosaurus stays! Alright! Is Tarbosaurus really Tyrannosaurus?
from Leonard24, age 12, ?, ?, ?; November 15, 2000

The invasion is underway at DinoFiction! Check it out!
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 15, 2000

Hey!! I had to come to this site to learn about the Cretaceous Period and dinosaurs for a project and I have learned SO much!! this is a really cool site!!! :)
from L.F., age 13, ?, ?, U.S.A.; November 15, 2000

I have no problem with the ammount of food consumed by Carcharodontosaur's tyrannosaurs. Carcharodontosaur is probably the most accurate writer, and I don't think we should worry about minor details. But just so this doesn't come up again, how big should the meat freezer on the spaceship be? Chapter 2 of Dinosaurs Walked Here is coming today, with an old theory and a new villan...
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 15, 2000

"I don't think anybody in the world would want to change
it. People would be up in arms."

Well, I do want to change it. Manospondylus gigas is a cool name, and it was the first name. But since Tyrannosaurus rex already is a nomen conservandum (a name that has been previously questioned an ruled to be the proper name basically because its popular), there's really no issue and it will always be T. rex. :(
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 15, 2000

Calm down Carchardontosaur. These people are your readers; they read your work. I know how it feels when your work is questioned, it's a real hit to your ego. But here's a tip. I don't think your readers are all out to get you or debunk your story, try following their advice when you deem fit.

But it's your story, feel free to write it anyway you want.
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Wow, look at the sheer number of posts coming in. Did you get me? Old Blood 19 is out
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Strangely enough, the true gender of the T-Rex is something that, according to Chris Brochu, the museum's paleontologist, will likely never be conclusively determined. Initially, everyone had assumed Sue was male until a German paleontologist put forth a theory based on female crocodiles having one less bone in their tails -- a theory Pete Larson tested with "Sue." For Hendrickson, though, this debate is irrelevant, as she told me.
from Levine, age 24, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Anorexic rexes? Who would have thought it? Anyway, I figured that T.rex probally wasn't as dumb as we thought. He wasn't smart enough to run under his maximum safe speed limit(the speed at which if he falls he will hurt himself) But I figure he would be smart enough to stop eating when he ws full, and start eating when he was hungey. You T.rex seems hungry all the time. Does he use 670kilowattshours of energy every hour?
from Levine, age 24, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Nobody knows, in fact, if Sue was a male or a female, but there are some clues that it was female. The shape of Sue's pelvis, Flynn says, suggests room for passing eggs. The females in most predator bird species, the closest known living T. rex relatives, are always bigger than the males. Because Sue is the biggest T. rex ever found, that, too suggests it's female.

Sue's bones show she lived a difficult, violent life. Many healed broken bones in her body attest to that. Her crushed skull bears many tooth marks, most probably from another T. rex. Was she killed by a rival in a fight, or was she simply being dined upon by a scavenger after she died in some other fashion?

In truth, many questions probably will never be answered. Sue and the other fossilized creatures and plants preserved with her evidently died during horrific flooding of an ancient river. Each of them may have died at a different time and place along the river. Their remains then simply may have been swept together and lifted over the riverbank, coming to rest in a fine silt that formed the rock that encased them.

But with those kinds of storyline possibilities, Sue promises to be at least as entertaining as she is educational. That's something the Field is counting on.
from Mr Rogers? Are you reading this?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

The ancient predator's Latin name - which means "tyrant lizard king" - may be on the endangered list, according to a fossils expert.

The T. rex, the first specimen of which was discovered in Montana in 1902, was named three years later by paleontologist Henry Osborn.

But dinosaur bones unearthed last week at a South Dakota ranch could be part of a fossil found earlier, in 1892, and called Manospondylus gigas, said Peter Larson, president of the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research.

If that's the case, Larson said, rules of paleontology say the first name would take precedence.

"That puts the name Tyrannosaurus rex in peril," Larson said Monday.

Larson's company in 1990 dug up Sue, the most complete T. rex fossil ever found. Last week, it excavated about 10 percent of a fossil on a ranch in Perkins County, the same general area where paleontologist Edward Drinker Cope made his 1892 discovery.

Cope didn't have enough of the fossil for the name he chose - Manospondylus gigas, which means "giant, thin vertebra" - to become the accepted terminology for the species now known as T. rex, Larson said. The discovery of the more complete fossil in 1902 by Barnum Brown led to that designation.

"You can't describe a species from a single bone or a single tooth," Larson said. "It doesn't tell you what the whole animal looks like. It's not enough."

Larson suspects the newly discovered bones, including ribs, vertebrae, the jaw and parts of the skull, are part of the same animal Cope found. With a fuller complement of bones on hand, Larson believes the terrifying T. rex could become Manospondylus gigas. The fossil already has been nicknamed "E.D. Cope."

Carrie Herbel, a paleontologist at the South Dakota School of Mines and Technology, is not so sure. A name change would require overwhelming evidence that it is the same creature, she said.

"I think that would be very difficult at best," Herbel said.

And then there's the dinosaur-enamored public - especially children.

"It would be a real hard sell," she said. "I don't think anybody in the world would want to change it. People would be up in arms."

Even Larson is not thrilled by the idea.

"It would be very sad if the name had to be changed," said Larson, who plans to conduct research at the American Museum of Natural History in New York to determine whether the fossils are from the same animal.

The more recent fossils were discovered last December by rancher Bucky Derflinger on his family's property. Derflinger said he has no fear that Tyrannosaurus rex will lose its place in the language.

"Even people who don't know anything about dinosaurs know what a T. rex is," he said. "You can't replace T. rex."

Larson said the dinosaur is an adult male, perhaps 40 feet long and weighing about 6 tons. He said he plans to do more excavating at the ranch.

"Hopefully there will be just a little bit more," Larson said.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

If it makes anyone happy, from this point forward, the Rexes are anorexic. Happy? Good. (Shame too, I was gonna have 'em eat Alex:)They will be so skinny, they'll turn into compys, the raptors can squish them, and they live happily ever after. KAY?!!!
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

It is a postosuchus. A predator from the mid triassic. Do ya really like him squishing compys that much?
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

I have read the fan fic section and can't say I am not impressed! Let me see.

Excellent english, good story.

Short but clear stories, actioned packed, good! Keep it up!

Nice story, good content.

Give us more!

Nice story? Where's heading?

Billy Macdraw/Honkie Tong
One of the best! How did you do so many stories??! Incredible!

from Lilian Tay, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Old Blood 19 is out, thanks honkie, for standing in for me.
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

What's that cool predator that loves squishing compys? Cool!
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

O.K. you win. I give up. This is turning into an argument. You're right. My next story is much better though.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Okay, lets be more consise. T.rex probally needed 35-45 tons of meat to keep going a year. Happy? Whatever it is, it means it would need about 1 ton every 10 days. In your story, the T.rexes proally consumed up to 80-120 tons of meat at the rate they are going, no wonder they are fat.
from Leonard, age 12, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Say Jc, could you put Old Blood 18 in red? It looked odd standing out.
from Billy Macdraw, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

The year was about 12 days longer as the day was shorter (23hours) but the earth was still moving at the same speed. One things for sure. The T.rex in your story probally didn't need to eat right after making a big kill (in the first chapter) Infact, it would probally leave the other animals alone.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

cool. T.rex was a eating machine.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Kay, let me go through this again. Even if they ate that much, how often do they eat an entire trike, bones and all? Never. I have a problem with measuring this in people units. They ate that much in a bite! Also, the year was shorter back then.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

I have posted my next story, and it is part one of book one. Once again, I'd like to get any opinions. I am open to anything.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Huh? My copy of Walking With Dinosaurs: A natural history (by Tim Haines) says that T. rex would eat 3-4 trikes a year, or 292 150-pound people. I checked other sources. The Science of Jurassic Park and the Lost world would have this calculation, but couldn't find it. So I got an even better book. The Complete Dinosaur, which features Farlow's actual calculation, gives a number of gives only 73 150-pound people per year. So yes, there is something wrong with WWD, regardless of which book you have.

Estimates of Triceratops' weight vary greatly, but I do not think that this animal exceeded 10 tons.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 14, 2000

Thank you for the WOOOOOOOOOOOOWs! I'll try to write some now, maybe it will be posted tonight. So, what words can we use only in the fanfic secion? (don't worry, I wont)
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 14, 2000

Aw, I missed something! Who said what?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 14, 2000
I put it back in (edited) but you didn't really miss anything. JC

Just responding to your post. Technically, the book is sorta wrong. They would need that much, but, I think the book was trying to make a point they need that much in weight. Now, lots of and lots of a tricearatops total weight is the head, and that is mostly bone. Also, their total mass is about 20 tons, including that big, heavy skeleton. So, they would need to kill way more than that to survive. Also, how often would they eat every bite of a carcass in one sitting? Not to mention there are two rexes, and only one kill. I rest my case.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

I am starting to get your story Brad and it is gooooood!

from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

i think that dinosaurs are verry neet .did you know that they were real at one point.
from j.m, age 10, grand prairie, texas, u.s.a.; November 14, 2000

JC? how could you let such a perverse piece of mail through? He used the word "s@#&" you know! You can only use that word in the fanfic section.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000
Oops - I missed it. It's gone now. JC

My last post was messed up. I hit enter after putting my name in and it sent it. Anyway, Brad, I read your second part to DINOSAURS WALKED HERE. I have one thing to say. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!! You are a very gifted author. I hope you write more in the future. The near future.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Wow, I didn't know that, but the walking with dinos book says T.rexes need five or six Triceratops a year.(or 264 people)
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Hey Mr.Rogers, I think I can kill your Sue is male or female story dead pretty surely:

Well, I checked out the latest news update on Sue, a news article on the field musuem of 14th November(just yesterday) and they offically said that they were not certain of Sue's gender, but assumed she was a female. They also said that they never confirmed her gender because a chervon was never found!(mabye there isn't one) For the person who released that report to you, well, mabye he (or she?) was playing a cruel joke on you. hahahahha.
Yeah man, some birds did have arms.

from Leonard, age 12, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

To the dude that said my T-Rexes eat alot. Yes, you are 100% correct. These in particular eat a lot beacause they never eat too much at once. Lets do the math. Rexes weighed at least six tons. Now, the two put together would equal what? 13 tons. Now, a lion, when it does eat, eats nearly a quarter of its body weight. They eat once every 4-5 days on average. Now, a fully grown stegoceras only weighs like 75 pounds. Divide that(Literally) by two and you can see why they would need to eat every day. An old anatotitan wieghs at the most 2 tons, and lots of that is just bone. You can see why they must have eaten a lot.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

hey guys, hows it goin?i live in austrailia and i ride dinosura tschool every day. it is soo much fun. it always best to ride t-rex's becasue they eat all the little kiddies that get in your way.i hate little kiddies soo much!they ^&*(^% me to tears! i enjoy riding on flying dinosaurs. come to australia !it's an experience you must do!
from fatman, age 23, sydney, nsw, australia; November 14, 2000

Aiyah, tell me lah, anyway wow, if Sue was a male T.rex then Tyrannosaurus would even be cooler! I can't imagine how massive the biggest female Tyrannosaur is! Wow!!!
Why don't you ask that scientist who dug Sue up if the females were really bigger, I'll bettcha he's tell you so.

from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Wow! It's been a long time since I've been in your site, JC, but the additions are amazing! I love dinosaur fiction! You've got quite a group of dinosaur enthusists following your site. :-)
I, along with a few teammates become familiar with this site while researching for the creation of our own site. This site can be found at The site is currently a finalist in the Thinkquest Internet Challenge 2000 contest. Please stop by and tell us what you think.
In the meantime, I'm going back to DinoFiction to read on! :-)

from :-), age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Hey guys I'm back. I didn't really get a chance to read the fanfic section yet. Did honkie do some of the story for me? And what's this talk about female Tyrannosaurus being smaller? I thought it was the other way round. Well, one things for sure, Sue's almost certainly female for she was too big and had a female skull. (which is by the way very different from a male, its HARD TO IDENTIFY IT WONGLY.)

Mr. Rogers, I don't know you, but I also don't know how you came to that conclusion. Chevron bones are hard to identify due to excessive fragmentation of verterbre. Meaning a broken piece of verterbre could be mixed up as a chevron. It's typical in the case of paleontology. Example: Some people used to think iguanadon had a hole in the mouth for sticking the thounge through, but of course, this piece of misinformation actually came from a broken jawbone. I suspect its the case here. Unless they really found a complete chevron (chevrons are fragile and unlikely to survive intact.) It's likely the mystrey Sue chevron (besides, I can't find any aticles on the discover of such a bone.) is just a piece of broken bone or a chervon coming from the male Tyrannosaurus that died nearby.

I think its evolutionary chavinism to say females were typically weaker. In hunting dogs, the females lead while the males do the hunting. Females hunting dogs tend to be bigger and more robust. It's also the case for hyenas and jackals. In other predaotry species where there is no sexual dismorphism in the female's favour, both male and females are of the same size, with felina (hunting cats)as the exception. Lets move closer to the dinosaurs shall we? Female birds of prey also tend to be bigger than the males. How about the most primitive lifeforms? Well, insect females are larger. Early lifeforms actually favour the female as being a big female would favour child-rearing. Long story short. It's easier and makes more sense for a predatory animal to have females as the roboust form. The converse is true for prey animals though.

About Dryptosaurus, lets see.. I don't think being the meanest pound for pound really matters in the world of predatory animals. So what if you are a rat with the meaness of a cat? A dog would still attack you. Long story short again. Compairing Dryptosaurus to Tyrannosaurus is like compairing a Desert Eagle .50AE Handgun to a Abrams M-253 120mm gun. Well, sure, pound for pound, the Desert Eagle is more powerful, but being the meanest gun doesn't really matter when a 120mm fires.... It stands, the deadilest predatory dinos were the ones who could carry the most predatory equipment.
from Billy Macdraw, age 18, ?, ?, ?; November 14, 2000

Now everybody is jumping on me about the Tyrannosaurus sex issue, but then again people I SAID Im not sure because tyrannosaurus did live a violent life like hyenas do and the male would HAVE to be smaller, I pretty much concluded that at the end of my message. You wanna know where I got the Sue is a male thing??? Go to Field Muesuem ITSELF. Hahahaha. I got it from no book or newspaper, It was on a special program WRITTEN BY THE SCIENTIST who dug Sue out and put her together. I think its in National Geographic also, but Im not sure. You can buy the program(Im not sure of the real name for the thing, its not really a program) at the Field store or order it from Field also, its awesome. Now about Dryptosaurus, I have a very recent study on him and I have found a picture at the Dinosauricon, but I think they got rid of it. Go to "Dinosaur art and modeling" and then click the link leading to "Dinosaur Illustrations", its a cool picture of him attacking a duckbill. They dont have all the bones, but it has been deduced he had 3 fingers, was a high jumper and good sprinter and for sure he had a large head full of big sharp teeth. Its insanely similar to Nqwebesaurus. Could be of the same family, most likely. The only thing I hate is his hands are short, but theyre really big compared to his arms. Try to imagine the arms of allosaurus but shorter with the hands a lil larger. Hes not all that big, about 20 ft long, but if you do the mathematical equation to find the height, hes about 5-5,9 at the hip. Kinda stinks. Now lions dont really "Pack", but they dont really mob either, thats something, again I say, done mostly by none land animals. And if your thinking about saying "what about mongooses, Prairie dogs and bison, they have a ranking system, even ants do. I agree with Honky Tong who I think said raptors may have had a system like lions. Still I say think of them having a similar niche to saber-tooth cats. The pliocene mainla! nd top predator majority were cats with saber-teeth, even though none were built like smilodon, more like pantherines(lions and tigers)except for the teeth. It kinda looks like raptors ruled the early cretaceous pretty much. Oh yeah! I got exciting news, on a website about greek reports from the past, they found many describing rhinos as unicorns and hippos as water horses and such, but there was a report by one of the soldiers of Alexander the Great who said, in the wilds of India(I dont know which part) they saw real dragons. The description was a animal about 3 or 4 feet tall at the hip, long tail held up in the air, bipedal walking, large head and small, miniscule arms. They may have seen something else. I dont take all that stuff real seriously, but it looks interesting. Go to greek reports and mythology.
Does anyone know that the south American killer birds(phorusrhaicoids) had hands? Its a fact, found through paleontology. Built like dinosaurs. Im curious if Diatryma had hands or no. You know, Bakkers book and many others said Dinosaurs had lips because of the notches for lip muscle. Since dinosaurs arent really reptiles, I like to think of their lips looking like soft croc skin(under-neck parts) or like the same type skin as the naked skin on a bird's face like the Dodo or the cassowary. They found out that dino feathers most resembled those of the kiwi and the late moa. So dinosaur cousins still kept old bloodline wear afterall. Honky Tong, I drew a picture of a Tyrannosaurus Rex with those "croc lips". How can I send it to you I dont have a scanner?

from Mr.Rogers, age ?, ?, ?, USA; November 14, 2000

Dryptosaurus? Not a really powerful predator. Anyway, we believe that females in general were bigger. Female T.rexes have no chevron and thend to have heavier ribs that are oval in cross section. The adverage length of such skeletons are 38.6 feet while the typical skeletons of male T.rexes are an adverage of 34.7 feet long.

I believe the female Tyrannosaurus were bigger. It is common in the natural world for females to be bigger.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

Mr. Rogers, I have checked but found no reports of Sue being male. Besides, Sue was found near a "male" T.rex, that bone would have come from anywhere. If Sue really was male, then it would be a new species of male rex as it did not have the decorative nasal bones of a typical male. Put your theories to rest, they have more holes than a target ship.

Besides, I think the males were smaller, not because of pack structure or anything, but because of what we found. All male T.rexes found(with extra bone) were considerably smaller than female skeletons(those lacking the extra bones).

Please do more research. I also searched the national geo mag "Sue's debut" to check it out. No, they did not find any extra bone.

Did you read the article about a male sue from the newspaper, a small article with sketchy infomation?

Then it would be extremely unproffesional to trust it...
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

I beg to differ Mr Rogers, its a overwhelming statistic that female tyrannosaurus were bigger. I donno where you made your conclusions, but I guess they are probally wrong. Go ask any paleontologistr.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

Sorry, but I wasn't clear. But I refer to the Tytrannosauids in general, not T.rex. T.rex probally didn't see the raptors go into decline.

I find that Eq dosent really matter, it's just a approximation. Some animals have a low eq but exibit complex behaviour, like ants. Eq is just a general guide.
from Honkie Tong, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

The next installment of Dinosaurs Walked Here is here!
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2000

GC , I sended a story to the fiction page called The Making of Dino-show-us and it never showwed up on it.Why?
from Reuben B., age 7, Nedham, MA, USA; November 13, 2000
I never got it. Try sending it again. JC

Dryptosaurus, Mr. Rogers! Here's a link to a cool picture of Dryptosaurus eating a Stegocras, and some information I found on Dinosaurussen-gids (

"Though already found in 1866, we realy don't know much of this dinosaur. He's known from a partial skeleton found in North-America. In this drawing he's depicted ad a member of the Tyrannosaurids with only 2 fingers, but this is speculation. The latest analysis show he's been a primitive coelurosaur, wich is also odd because he lived in the late Cretaceous, at the end of the dinosaur period. He probably was a formidable hunter and would have reached a length of 6 meter."

If anyone knows of any other dryptosaur pictures (they're rare), tell me where they are!
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2000

I think that dinosaurs became extinct because of a meteorite.
from Michelle, age 8, Westlake, oh, usa; November 13, 2000

In short, I propose that raptors hunted in an organised group, though maybe not as organised as a pack.

Actually, a pride is not free for all. According to this source, "Lionesses hunt by ambush, with the majority of the hunting group chasing the prey toward individuals lying in wait who are then able to give chase over short distances before leaping on the selected animal for the kill." I listed the source prviously.
T-Rex and raptors may have used this hunting technique.

from DW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

I don't know about Tyrannosaurs hunting as a pack though. Their eq does not quite seem to be enough. Like they would need to pack, they are so efficient as it is :). A pair would be enough to take down any animal, like what modern birds of prey practice.

And well, there is a hierachy in lion prides, a form of social structure. It is not a total free for all. Unlike a mob of crows, so we can't say that raptors definitely had no social structure. And it is a very effective method of hunting, just look at lions today.

There is a slight gap of 25 million years (Ok, not so slight :)) between the decline of the raptors and the rise of the tyrannosaurs, so it might not be fair to say that T-Rex's pushed out raptors. Probably diseases or some other reason killed them off. Or even a change in behaviour ;).

HOT OFF THE PRESS: I was writing all that just now and chanced upon this website concerning behaviour in big cats. Raptors may yet be pack hunters, although not as we think ;). The site is
Copy and paste.

Thanks for putting up with me!
from DW, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

Thanks for the correction, Honkie Tong. I see your point.

BTW, it is not duck wing..... Let's just leave it at that
from DW, age 14, Singapore!, ?, ?; November 13, 2000

Deinonychosaurs was created as an infraorder, at the same level as Coelurosauria. It has also contained Troodontids and Therizinosaurs at times, and is mostly used in older books.

Dromaeosauridae was created as a family containing Dromaeosaurus. A recent alternate cladogram shows Dromaeosaurus being more distantly related to the other 'dromaeosaurids', but it hasn't really caught on yet. Currently the most popular formal name.

'Raptor is a decent term that works, but its informal and some people can't stop pointing out its preoccupied as the informal name for a modern group of birds. If informal names can be preoccupied, why do we have a fish and a whale called a dolphin? Raptor' is still kind of vague though, an poorly defined.

Velociraptorine may be the scientific equivalent of 'Raptor. Basically any 'raptor closer to velociraptor than dromaeosaurus, or any 'raptor except dromaeosaurus.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 13, 2000

First of all,Ive seen Sue at the muesuem less than a week ago and Sue is not 100% Complete AND when digging a dinosaur you dont find everything right away, you may find a dinosaur, but to find ALL the bones take time. Some are scattered. I dont think T.Rex males were smaller than females becuase of the head butting equipment of the male IN pack behaviour. Now if they were loners, then Id agree. Males are only smaller than the females when in a pack the male will surely kill the babies like if bears were in packs, like hyenas today or if they pack is a very violent lifestyle. Then again, the female may have been bigger, but I dont know. If sue is a boy, I dont think females were bigger because they found smaller females before. Jenny, Im not lying, you HAVE to know what a chevron looks like to see it and all the real bones of sue still arent up there and never will for scientific purposes. A chevron is small and at the base of the tail like in the cr! ocodylomorpha.
I dont think raptors were the deadliest, I still think its Dryosaurus with that huge head full of big sharp teeth, thick powerful body, thick arms with that HUGE eagle claw and high jumping ability. Pound for pound, he was probably the most dangerous with a T,rex head and raptor hands, whoooo. Now about raptors and mobbing, mobbing does not occur in land animals that much, and theyve found dire wolves and smilodons around bison. I like to think of raptors having a niche like Homotherium. They ran in small packs after animals from medium to Large, like sabertooth cats, but in build they resemble homotherium(remember the cat used his head primarily as a killing tool). Large hunting predators dont really mob. Velociraptor may have and baboons do. Now the ostrich-dinos probably did, but they seemed to filled the niche of gazelles, so maybe, maybe not. Scientists found out they were grazers and browsers, not omnivores, maybe ate a few bugs if they found them, LIKE gazelles do toda! y, but other than that, no. Have they figured out if dinosaurs had lips or not??? Does anyone here like creodonts as much as I do???

from Mr.Rogers, age ?, ?, ?, USA; November 13, 2000

I usse Windows 98
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 13, 2000
Ok, I'll tell them and maybe they can fix it. JC

Dromeosaurids or Deinonychosaurs anyone? (I think if Dromeosaurus is made head of the group then it doesn't suggest the link with coelurosaurs) Most people here seem to refer to them as the former
from Chris.B, age 20, -, -, England; November 13, 2000

You wouldn't see an Alioramus teaming up with a Tyrannosaurus, or would you?
from Chris.B, age 20, -, -, England; November 13, 2000

psst, I think Billy Macdraw prefers old blood in red letters, what's haup with old blood 18?
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Hey Duck Wing, I believe the same too. Big intellegent raptors probally did not hunt in a pack, but instead had more of a free for all fight. We're not really sure what they used their claws for because even though they sould swing them like a switch blade, they didn't have the strength to slash with that. What you have mentioned is not pack behavior, its mobbing. Lions don't hunt in packs, they mob.

A pack usually has an alpha animal to lead an attack. Packs use strategity and communication, mobs tend to have a general understanding. In a pack, the alpha animal selets which animal to attack. In a mob, it tends to attack any animal it come across which the individuals feel fit to attack. There is no control in a mob, its kind of a riot.

I drew this conclusions because pack behaviour is highly complex behaviour. In fact, no animals except a few hunting dogs pack today. Besides, packing would have give the Raptors a great advantage over Tyrannosauids, but it did not. By the end of the mid-cretacious, the raptors were in sharp decline.

Tyrannosauids more likely hunted in packs. Young and old albertosaurus have been found together, as well as Tyrannosaurus. I appears that the young Tyrannosaurs chased and broke up a herd to isloate a youngester for the adults to attack. I thinkl the articles in somewhere in the back arcives of dino talk.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Wow! The stories in the fiction setting are great! And they are so easy to find! Great job, JC!
from DW, age 14, Singapore!, ?, ?; November 12, 2000
Thanks - I just wish that last one had been signed.

Do you see mobs of crows harassing cats and other, larger animals? Any predator knows not to attack prey they cannot take down, even if they had the advantage of numbers.

Actually, from what Levine and Holtz report in their articles, which stated that the large claw on raptors seem to be made more for grappling and that raptors have the physical make-up of larger felines, one can get the impression that raptors could have hunted much like lions today. The toe claws make a great grappling device to prevent getting flung of large prey, allowing 1 raptor to slow down the prey animal and allowing the rest of the pack to catch up and go for the neck. One of the three muscles in the raptors jaw allows the jaw to clamp down, perfect for restricting air flow. This would probably be an effective way to bring down igaunodonts, hadrosaurs and lambeosaurs.

Also, what conditions was the tenonotosaurus skeleton preserved in?
If it was a volcanic ash fall that preserved the skeletons it would exlain why the predators were preserved with the prey.

Note: When I refer to raptors, I refer to Deinonychus. Sorry but I seem to have taken up the practice of Robert Bakker in refering to all dromaeosaurids as raptors, a habit I picked up from reading his books. Velociraptors seem more suitible for nest raiding.

Any comments?
from DW, age 14, Singapore!, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Hey Brad, why don't you post your pictures too? Then we can organize the fan picture page like the fan fic page!
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Good names for Raptors:


Good names for Tyrannosaurus

Mr. Zee Rex
Black Death

from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Revised Old Blood 17 and all new 18 is now out, read it now! What do you think, did I do Billy proud?
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

I find it odd as to why an Albertosaurus would attack a T.Rex, it was more likely for the albertosaurus to have nothing to do with a rex, or to band up with a rex to hunt, like some hunting cats do toady.
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Cool story brad, who would have thought it? Mabye after Billy Macdraw returns and takes over old blood, I will write a "Walking with Dinosaurs style fanfic series!"
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Everything is confusing. I don't quite get it. Are you taking it from the T. Rexes point of view.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

JC, I pressed enter while typing my name and it got sent. What happened?
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000
I don't know - that doesn't happen here. I was told to ask you what browser are your using and what operating system (like Windows 2000, Macintosh, etc.)? Then they might be able to trace down the problem. JC

Is there anything particularly confusing, firebird? Or are you just not used to the idea of T. rex in space?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

Dynamosaurus impersious.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

I love dinos! My favorite one is the Anklyasaures.
from Mitchell.W, age 9, I.G.H, M.N, U.S.A; November 12, 2000

Carchardontosaur, your T.rexes eat very often do they (even more often than lions!)? They must be super hotblooded active swift running carnivores!
from Leonard, age 12, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

JC,I pressed the enter one time when I was writing my name. Why is that?
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000
Do you mean that it submits the form when you do a carriage return (which it shouldn't)? It doesn't do that on my machine - let me know exactly what the sequence of events was and I can get a technical person here to fix it. JC

I think T.rex is a cooler name, besides, T.rex used to be refered as imperium dynamtosomething, it's a good thing they changed it.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Brad, okay I just got to read your story and I don't quite understand it.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

I think Island has potential, yes. And no, I currently don't really understand it.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

Yes Honkie, I laughed when I saw your captured dinosaurs.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

Manospondyls gigas? I love that name! Change it! Change it!
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

You can name a dino Andrew or Eugene. They HATE Dinosaurs. I'd like to see their faces when I tell them they are in a dino book! HA, HA HA HA HAH!!!!! I feel creul today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Do you like Island? It may not seem clear yet, but it will.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

I know this is a unique request but I was wondering if anyone knows a website that I can download the screensaver called dino shred. I can get it anywhere, bu it always comes out a word document rather than a screensaver. Any help would be great.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

What would you thin of a new book by me?
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

When can we expect a scientific description of T. imperator? I first heard of this dinosaur in late 1997, in one of dinosaur magazines. It was described as up to 70 feet long, but first reports are always too big- Quetzalcoatlus was also initally 65-75 feet as well. But I think they were referring to T. imperator, since we don't have any other gigantic tyrannosaurs that were found recently. Giganotosaurus was discovered in 1993 and described in 1995- so if Tyrannosaurus imperator was discovered in 1997 (or earlier), why will it probably be 2001 before we can get some facts on it?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

You can always name a dinosaur after my sister, Kayla. She absolutely hates dinosaurs. :)

How about writing an Early Jurassic story with Heterodontosaurus as main characters. It's hard to imagne those things not leading interesting lives. You could also have Lesothosaurus, Syntarsus, and Massospondylus as secondary characters.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

No, the cartoon is called Dinozaurs and hasn't been discussed yet. So what do you think? I was amazed how dumb this show is- writers finally bring back some dinosaurs for a tv series, but whenever the dinosaurs fight they have to transform into humanoid robots? Oh, and the dinosaurs are fighting a big space dragon or something. Dino Warz is a different series on the dino fiction page.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 12, 2000

"Intellegent Tyrannosaurs" who would have thought it?
from ?, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Dang, I wished they dig that T.imperator out faster and name it. It may technically be the second-largest carnosaur in the world, but certainly the most powerful. T.res is currently the most powerful.
from Leonard, age 12, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Hey, I just released another picture! Anyway, I have been seeing this hooha of changing T.Rex's name into another creature that had been found eariler. Apparently, these plans are not going ahead due to intense negative pressure from paleontologists and children alike. Looks like the "change sue's name" idea, this one has also been shelved. What do you think of the dinos we captured?
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Are you sure Sue is a boy? I think you are lying! I saw the Sue skeleton and it had no extra bone! Even the special bony stuff they find on boy rexes were not there. These this just magically appear on a skeleton aready examined like a few thousand times? Sue was also a complete T.rex, so it's gender would have been discovered early. I think the raptors didn't use their toe-claws to attack, what do you think?
from Jenny, age 12, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Good news! I've posted chapter three. By some standards it isn't as good as the first tw but its a building block for my final chapter, 4. I am now working on another one and need suggestions for dinosaurs and dinosaur names. Pleez let me know ASAP.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Chaptor 8 is coming.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

THANKS JC for changing it. I didn't have enough time to get to it.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Cool, if Sue was a boy then T.rex must even be more powerful! Cos if a male rex got so big, the females.....ha ha ha ha ha!

Anyway, it stands, there has been little evidence to suggest that Raptors hunted in packs. Infact, there has been more evidence suggeting Tyrannosauids doing so. Is that why the raptors gave way to the smash-mouth tatics of Tyrannosaurus?

It stands, the raptors were probally overrated. Some people suffer from a "must do everything to knock rex off his throne" complex, thus when the raptors were found, they were touted as the most powerful and deadilest ever, but of course, now we know better.....

Pack behaviour is complex, in fact, it has only been observed in mammals. Even the smartest social birds like crows don't pack, they mob. The raptors probally mobbed larger prey, a pack usualy ascesses its prey and abort attacks to avoid losing members of the pack. This obviously isn't the ase for the raptors as we have found dead raptors around vastly oversized prey. This is good evidence for foolish attacks against too-powerful prey, perfect evidence for mobbing, not pack hunting.

ps, I am making changes to old blood 17, did you see my captured dinos?
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 12, 2000

Honky Tong, Just cause modern birds dont move in packs doesnt mean dinosaurs didnt. Thats like if most mammals were extinct and we said wolves and hyenas didnt pack cuz modern bats dont. The role and mind of flying and land animals are VERY different, nonetheless bloodlines show theyre family ties. I dont think T. Imperator is a T.Rex. Its simply too large when the normal size for a tyrannosaurus is 43-46 ft. Did anyone know Sue is actually a boy? They found a chevron bone and THEY can tell dinosaur sex... Ive read that more than once. Also, Dr.Bakker did say when dealing with prehistoric animals and features, put sex in mind, because the drive to mate, intimidate, impress and dominate bring forth strange ornaments like the head butting equipment and eye decorative ornaments of tyrannosaurus males like theyre large post and pre-orbital ornaments. I also want to say that all predatory animals, no matter how theyre built are not more or less primitive! than another of another time or same time. They are built correctly to kill theyre food source quickly and efficiently. Also, I know most people here are talking about dinosaurs, but this place does talk about the mammales as anyone fascintated by them? My favorites are the creodonts. Found out shrews are to them as weasels are to cats. SImply, in the same order or superorder if you will. Also, when you guys say DinoWarz, are you talking about that cartoon show???
from Mr.Rogers, age ?, ?, ?, USA; November 12, 2000

No, I am not writing a romance novel with dinos.(Although that is a good idea. I might try it!) I should have Chap.3 here by tomorrow. It isnt really a love story but I uess you could say there is love involved. Chap. 3 goes deeper into the female. That would be cool if you continued that story. It was very cool, and very creative. Just FYI, if you want to know any cheats for trespasser, here are a couple:
(First, you have to hit CRTL+F11. You will become immobile and a little blinking white line will appear in the bottom left corner so you can type)
dinos=Freezes all dinosaurs(I reccomend this)
tnext=transports you to the next imprtant location on the level but beware sometimes this results in instant death.
win=you do not actually win but you see the ending movie.
(Hit enter to activate the code, and hit esc to become mobile again.)
I know more if ya want to know them. I am working on another story and I'm looking for name s and charcaters. Suggestions? Anyone?

from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000

Sorry about the mistake in the upcoming chaptor. It name is togetherness not Elasmosaur.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000

Chapter 2 is good. Is the beginning of the first great dinosaur romance novel? I'll try trespasser again when I get the time, which probably means during the Christmas holidays. To win, you apparently hit F11 and type "WIN", or something along those lines :) What do you think of my story specifically? (Chapter 2 coming Monday, maybe tomorrow depending on how fast I can do my homework)
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

I write a lot of dinosaur stories, one is posted in the dino fiction section. I have nearly finished that one and I am taking suggestions for a main dinosaur in my next story. If the person suggests a good one, I can use their internet name or any name you wish.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000

I think it would be easier for a dinosaur (trying to keep this on topic) to float in salt water than in fresh water.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

The guy was Edward Drinker Cope, and the dinosaur's name was Amphicoelias fragillimus. It was discovered in 1878, and in 1897 became the first sauropod to be illustrated (by Charles Knight) as it might have appeared in life, as opposed to an illustration of the skeleton. The type (and only) specimen of A. fragillimus either crumbled because it was poorly preserved, or was lost in Cope's collection and stil exists. I hadn't heard the New York story before. Did Cope's fossils even go to New York?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

I have placed chapeter 2 of my story in the fan fiction section. I have read all the others and they are fantastic. Also, if you are having trouble with trespasser, I can help as I have beaten the game. To jump, you hit Q. It works when you are moving or not, and when you come to the place where you have to jump the stones, I reccomend a running jump.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000

I own the game Trespasser, but I can't really say that I've played it. I've never encountered a dinosaur! How exactly does jumping work, do you have to move forward at the same time?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

There's a new dinosaur book out that has details on how lifelike dinosaur models are made, and instructions for making your own. You even get instructions for making feathers for your dinosaur! It's on my Christmas list.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

Extinction is for a Reason is great! I love the decoy nest idea. If you feel like writing another story, do it! (And read my story while you're there!)
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

You're in luck Nicole, the largest carnivore currently doesn't have a name you need to remember (according to Chandler's Dinodex). It's related to Giganotosaurus. The largest dinosaur is either the popular Argentinosaurus, the amazing mysterious Amphicoelias fragillimus, or some other unnamed dino in South America. There are tons of "new" (actually, they're old, but they're new to us!) dinosaurs from around the world- here is a list of those genera named in 2000. Looks like you have a lot more names to learn.

Bambiraptor- maniraptor, Montana
Byronosaurus- troodontid, Mongolia
Charonosaurus- lambeosaurine, China
Chuanjiesaurus- cetiosaurid, China
"Ginnareemimus"- ornithomimid, Thailand
Glyptodontopelta- ankylosaurid, ?New Mexico
Huabeisaurus- huabeisaurid (opisthocoelocaudine?), China
Isanosauurs- Triassic sauropod, Thailand
Nanyangosaurus- iguanodont, China
Nomingia- oviraptorid, Mongolia
Nqwebasaurus- coelurosaur, South Africa
Pyroraptor- dromaeosaurid, France
Tendaguria- sauropod, Tanzania

There are also new species of Caudipteryx and Ceratosaurus, and species of Stegoceras have been reassigned to Prenocephale. Seismosaurus might have been moved to Diplodocus. It's a great year for new developments in dinosaurology.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

The eel-like lizards called Mosasaurs were truly long carnivores, up to fifty-some feet in some species (Plotosaurus, if i remember correctly).
Liopluerodon was sadly exaggerated, it was actually only 40 feet long or so. Which is still pretty good though. Kronosaurus, it should be mentioned here, has recently been re-reconstructed and reduced to about 26-30 ft :(
Megalodon is a shark and I don't know why its such a big deal here, as its nowhere near as cool as the exticnt carnivorous sea reptile familes. I don't care how long it was, its overrated.

from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 11, 2000

is it easier to float in lake water or ocean water? explain
from lauren c, age 9, miami, fl, usa; November 11, 2000

Nicole: the biggest sauropod named I think is Argentinosaurus (sp?) but one yet to be formerly described is one from Patagonia in South America, a brachiosaur estimated to be more than 150 tonnes and about 45 metres long.
from Chris.B, age 20, ?, ?, England; November 11, 2000

The largest herbivore known so far is siesmosaurus, but, in the early 1900's some guy found a vertabrate to a sauropod. It was not even complete, and even so it was larger than a man. He lost it on the way to new york and gave it a name but I can't remember it. Judging by how big the vertabrate was the whole animal could have been up to 170 feet long, while siesmosaurus is 110. If anyone knows what that guys name was or what the dino was called I would like to know. I really want to know wether i should post Chap 2 to my story. Once again, it's called EXTINCTION IS FOR A REASON and it's in the fiction section under Carchardontosaur.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000

Hey again! I was wondering whjat people think about the story I posted in the dino fiction section. If people like it I would like to know so I could post chapter 2. It is called EXTINCTION IS FOR A REASON if you would please take a little time to read it and give me an opinion.
from Carchardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000

I am just wondering. which dinosaur is the biggest herbivore.Is gigantasaurus the biggest carnavore or dinosaur in the world. I can not remember many dinosaurs names. Are there any new dinosaurs.


Please write soon.
from Nicole, age 8, georgetown, ontario, canada; November 11, 2000

Great job on the Dino Fiction Page JC! So are you going to keep adding on at the end so it will be like a book?
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 11, 2000
Yes, unless someone thinks up a better format and lets me know about it. JC

Sup? I haven't posted in a long while. Those of you that have been posting drawings, they are all incredible. Has anyone here played the software game Trespasser? It really rules! I am looking to see if someone else has a problem with the size of the dinos in that game, because to me some looked very out of proportion. I'll be hangin' around here more so please reply, I really want to know. Also, I've been wondering something else. All the books I have say mosasaurus was the worlds largest predator, wwd says it was liplouredon, and everything else says it was megladon. I really could use some help on this one.
from Carcardontosaur, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Hey Chandler, if you'd like to see where's I'm going with my story things aren't any clearer in Chapter One- but it's out now, so go read it if you want.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 10, 2000
OK - I'll try to fix them - I may reorganize the fiction page so its more easily readable. Any suggestions? JC

Hmm,any tips on how to improve on my drawings? I am drawing better than my first picture but I need some more tips.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Honkie Tong will do, I don't mind the E-Go Man though
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Why not e-mail George Olshevsky- he's the one who named Becklespinax. Try the Dinosaur Mailing List too. I'm interested in what's more likely- the tooth and the spines belonging to the same species, or having two large carnivores inhabiting the same habitat and having them both leave rather poor fossils?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 10, 2000

Cool drawings, Chandler! You draw better than me. Alot better.
from firebird, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Cool, Honkie Tong! I'll just take the images and make thumbnails of them and put them up right away...just one question, what name do you want under the (Copyright) and stuff? Honkie? Honkie Tong? H. Tong? hehe, just tell me.
from Chandler, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Two questions for To Holtz (or anyone if they know) referring to two sail-baced carnivores.
*How were scientists able to deduce that Metriacanthosaurus was a lizard-hipped carnivore when the only evidence were three neural spines? From this meagre information they've worked out it was 8 metres long, 3.7 metres high and weighed a tonne. My mind boggles....

*What was it that convinced experts that the Altispinax tooth found in Hanover did not belong to the renamed Becklespinax neural spines found in Dorset, England? (Altispinax has since become nomin dubia)How long were these spines?

Thank you,
from Chris B, age 20, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England; November 10, 2000

Two questions for To Holtz (or anyone if they know) referring to two sail-baced carnivores.
*How were scientists able to deduce that Metriacanthosaurus was a lizard-hipped carnivore when the only evidence were three neural spines? From this meagre information they've worked out it was 8 metres long, 3.7 metres high and weighed a tonne. My mind boggles....

*What was it that convinced experts that the Altispinax tooth found in Hanover did not belong to the renamed Becklespinax neural spines found in Dorset, England? (Altispinax has since become nomin dubia)How long were these spines?

Thank you,
from Chris B, age 20, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England; November 10, 2000

Nice art, Honkie Tong. The imperator looks very powerful. I'm not sure its a good idea for the other carnivores to be laughing at him... Yes, I know, they're just showing off their teeth too.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 10, 2000

Hi Chris! Is there anything you want to discuss about dinosaurs?

(I know there's little sideways faces to express ourselves with, but how do hand gestures work on the internet?)
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 10, 2000

These are the new pictures I have drawn, Chandeler, how do I post to your webstite? Anyway, the exams are almost over and I have alot of time on my hands.

imperator colour

from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

what is the rerist dino
from keegan m, age age, Warren, IL, USA; November 10, 2000

What's up with all this &hellip stuff in Old Blood?
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 10, 2000

hey whats up! I want to talk to someone. I dont care who.If you dont I will give you the middle finger.I am nice but,i can be mean most the time i am talk to me.
from chris v, age 10, orlando, florida, ?; November 10, 2000

NEWS FLASH GUYS, SOME MEMBERS OF MY LOCAL RESEARCH TEAM HAS JUST CAPTURED SOME REAL LIFE DINOSAURS! I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED. Anyway, here is a coloured out T.imperator, the carnosaur pattern and Postosuchus. Expect pictures of the real life dinosaurs captured soon.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Honkie , Are you interested in Dino-show-us 2?Billy Macdraw , when will another seson of Dino Warz?
from Reuben B., age 7, Nedham, MA, USA; November 10, 2000

Could you add my post under bill's Old Blood16, I am writing for him.
Anyway, the old blood written by me is out.

from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

Not really, firebird. I'd probably die if I had my internal organs crushed by a Pachycephalosaurus too. But good to know that there will be more additions to your story.
from Brad, age 13, Woodville, ON, Canada; November 10, 2000

I was reading Old Blood to see how to write the next chapter and I found what Billy raised up in his story quite true... people say that T.Rex could not run above 30km/h because he would hurt himself in a fall, but then again...was T.Rex smart enough to know any better?

I didn't think so.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

I will be standing in for Bill for the time being. I will be posting the next old blood soon. Bill is overseas or something... Mabye more comics are coming up. How do I post my pictures to your webstite? Chandeler, feel free to take my imperator picture and post it around.
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; November 10, 2000

THank you Dr./Mr. Holtz for your enlightening article.

I was just wondering why people do not compare Dinosaurs to modern animals. Yes, they share alot of physiological characteristics with birds and crocodiles but I do not think that speculated behaviour should reflect only those two references. Dinosaurs show highly specialised physiology so there must be highly specialised behaviour to acompany it. The best references (in my humble opinion) are the animals that share similar ecological niches to the dinosaur in question. However, maybe the hard part is determining the ecological niche the dinosaur lives in.

Wow, Honkie Tong, your drawings are good. I wish I could draw half as good as that. JC, (am i right?) why not create a dinosaur fan art page? That would be cool!
from DW, age 14, Singapore!, ?, ?; November 10, 2000
Okay. JC

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